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dahuman said:
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Na, I never said most people use them or anything, I'm not crazy enough for that, I'm just saying it's a viable option and it's out there no matter how small the percentage might be. I also know about the frame latency drop issues, but it's still a high gain regardless, I'm sure you already read this article too:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-benchmarking-frame-rate,3466.html

They didn't compare to single cards. Techreport did and CF was badly affected, SLI less so. Combined with their microstutter graphs I'm just not convinced that it provides a better viewing experience. I'd love to see some double-blind testing of that.



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Ubuntu (Linux) 1.34%
I wouldn't be surprised to see Linux overtake Mac OS when the Steam Box launches and Valves big name games finally launch for it. Linux numbers contracted according to this survey, which is expected since some people were just trying it out, either as new users or on a secondary Linux computer.



Looks like the people who are constantly berating the PS4's power is just a very vocal minority.



Soleron said:
dahuman said:
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Na, I never said most people use them or anything, I'm not crazy enough for that, I'm just saying it's a viable option and it's out there no matter how small the percentage might be. I also know about the frame latency drop issues, but it's still a high gain regardless, I'm sure you already read this article too:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-benchmarking-frame-rate,3466.html

They didn't compare to single cards. Techreport did and CF was badly affected, SLI less so. Combined with their microstutter graphs I'm just not convinced that it provides a better viewing experience. I'd love to see some double-blind testing of that.

It does provide a good viewing experience, I've tested it plenty of times on my end and I'm a pretty picky person myself, also yeah Nvidia's software engineering has always been better than AMD, they are very good. I'm hoping AMD will catch up soon since they are improving their drivers bit by bit as well. Micro stutter is only a real issue if you have a bottlenecked system or have fucked up software(the game itself or the drivers, BF3 at release comes to mind, Also the Tomb Raider problems at the start), otherwise you can't even see it unless somebody is stupid enough to run like 3-4 cards on a 3770k instead of a 3930k.



pezus said:
Windows Vista grew almost as much as 8. What's going on?

Likely steam growing as a platform.   They've recently made a focus increase their catalogue of indy games and free 2 play games.  Meaning you have plenty of reason to download steam even on an old computer.

 

Well that and maybe spring break home visists hah.  When i went home for Christmas i downloaded steam on my parents old ancient computer and played myself some origiinal Deus Ex.



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dahuman said:

I thought this was a gamer OS install base thread, how did turn into a GPU discussion and why is somebody trying to make it seem like the PS4 GPU is on par with a 7970 or a 680? o_O;

Errrr, Windows 8 is growing though.... son of a bitch....

I think he may be drunk...

As for Windows 8... what can you do.  It comes on most PCs now, and people don't want to pay for a "downgrade".



dahuman said:
Soleron said:
dahuman said:
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Na, I never said most people use them or anything, I'm not crazy enough for that, I'm just saying it's a viable option and it's out there no matter how small the percentage might be. I also know about the frame latency drop issues, but it's still a high gain regardless, I'm sure you already read this article too:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-benchmarking-frame-rate,3466.html

They didn't compare to single cards. Techreport did and CF was badly affected, SLI less so. Combined with their microstutter graphs I'm just not convinced that it provides a better viewing experience. I'd love to see some double-blind testing of that.

It does provide a good viewing experience, I've tested it plenty of times on my end and I'm a pretty picky person myself, also yeah Nvidia's software engineering has always been better than AMD, they are very good. I'm hoping AMD will catch up soon since they are improving their drivers bit by bit as well. Micro stutter is only a real issue if you have a bottlenecked system or have fucked up software(the game itself or the drivers, BF3 at release comes to mind, Also the Tomb Raider problems at the start), otherwise you can't even see it unless somebody is stupid enough to run like 3-4 cards on a 3770k instead of a 3930k.

You could be expecting to see it though? Placebo?

AMD have no cash for anything right now. I don't like Nvidia but I just bought a laptop with their card in because I plan on keeping this for five years and I want driver support from a company I know will still be around.



Soleron said:
dahuman said:
Soleron said:
dahuman said:
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Na, I never said most people use them or anything, I'm not crazy enough for that, I'm just saying it's a viable option and it's out there no matter how small the percentage might be. I also know about the frame latency drop issues, but it's still a high gain regardless, I'm sure you already read this article too:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-benchmarking-frame-rate,3466.html

They didn't compare to single cards. Techreport did and CF was badly affected, SLI less so. Combined with their microstutter graphs I'm just not convinced that it provides a better viewing experience. I'd love to see some double-blind testing of that.

It does provide a good viewing experience, I've tested it plenty of times on my end and I'm a pretty picky person myself, also yeah Nvidia's software engineering has always been better than AMD, they are very good. I'm hoping AMD will catch up soon since they are improving their drivers bit by bit as well. Micro stutter is only a real issue if you have a bottlenecked system or have fucked up software(the game itself or the drivers, BF3 at release comes to mind, Also the Tomb Raider problems at the start), otherwise you can't even see it unless somebody is stupid enough to run like 3-4 cards on a 3770k instead of a 3930k.

You could be expecting to see it though? Placebo?

AMD have no cash for anything right now. I don't like Nvidia but I just bought a laptop with their card in because I plan on keeping this for five years and I want driver support from a company I know will still be around.

oh yeah when some games are still new, they can lack the multi-GPU profile or have some fucked up shit going on even on single card setups, that's just the trade off of PC gaming, that's where consoles are like 70% better at. 

I know what you mean about Nvidia, I always thought ATI(AMD now sigh) had better video cards on architecture but the software is just never on par, shit pisses me off but that's why I think their chipset works better in consoles where devs would have more direct access to the hardware. We'll see if they shape up in the next year or 2, would really suck if there is no competition to Intel and Nvidia.



It's interesting to see how their rapid growth in Russia and other such regions is affecting the stats over time. And also the increase in laptop market share, it would be interesting to see how many laptops are used as secondary devices. I kinda wish that Valve would surface more data, but I can understand why they don't want to push the data collection to far.



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