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Who is the most arrogant idiot?

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All mistakes are pretty massive, so I wouldn't be able to choose one.

About the always online thing: There are 76m 360s sold. There are 46m Xbox Live accounts. Why the fuck would MS want to lose 30m consumers out of the gate like that?

Either the rumours are false or they are incredibly stupid.



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Troll_Whisperer said:
All mistakes are pretty massive, so I wouldn't be able to choose one.

About the always online thing: There are 76m 360s sold. There are 46m Xbox Live accounts. Why the fuck would MS want to lose 30m consumers out of the gate like that?

Either the rumours are false or they are incredibly stupid.


Are those 46 million active accounts, are accounts that have been created? I know a lot of folks that created multiple accounts for the free month of Gold.



Cyborg13B said:

I can sum up the mistakes better:

9.  Playstation 4's Blu-Ray.  Very costly at $50, doesn't improve the visual quality of the game.  High-density DVD is enough, and would probably be $40 cheaper.

10. Playstation 4's 8 CPUs.  Very hard to use.  2 CPUs is enough, and would cost 1/4 the price - $15 instead of say $60.   

11. Playstation 4's 8 GB RAM.  Would take 10 minutes to load that much data.  2 GB is enough, and would cost 1/4 the price, say $15 instead of $60.00.  

Thus Playstation 4 could easily be $125.00 cheaper, and have games which look identical.  Say $275.00 instead of $400.00.

No, you can't. I really don't know what say to this, it's wrong on so many levels.



No need to defend an absolutely horrible feature. Like Sales said, they can easily fix it with an update, so it's not real a big deal. Also, it might be nothing more than a rumour. But defend it? Seriously?

When I heard about second hand games not being allowed on ps4, I was quite upset, not because I buy used games (I only buy COD games for my friends used, as I don't believe Activision truly deserves my money), but because it's terrible for many if not most consumers, who unlike me, can't afford most games and have to keep selling their older games. If they don't buy a ps4, then that affects my entertainment as well, as I'll have an awesome console with no games. I was glad to see many ps fans expressing their disappointment when they heard that rumour.



Why didnt u include sega?



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Mummelmann said:
OP: Why are you using rumors about possible but not confirmed hardware architecture as a mistake for MS instead of the incredibly shameful RROD/disc scratch/overall worst hardware quality ever seen with subsequent billions in losses and massive loss of consumer trust and possible support and sales?

With that thrown in there instead, I'd say they are all pretty much evenly matched, allthough I would like to add that the Wii U is probably just as big a mistake as the N64 was in its time when it comes to design and aim.

I was thinking of strategic decisions that were terrible, and one that might be very bad and is a current hot topic.  I think of RROD as more a quality control issue than a corporate decision.  The RROD was almost disastrous, but MS amazingly was able to over come it.  I can't believe I eventually bought a 360 now that I think about it.  Actually, now that I do, I bought it because it was reportedly fixed and the PS3 was still at least $100 more expensive for a similar experience.  So RROD was bad, but not as bad as the PS3 price because XBox gained dramatic market share even after RROD in large part because of PS3 pricing.

I know you think WiiU is a poor design choice, but it is far, far too early to say that conclusively.  Every decision is relative, so you can only evaluate Nintendos decision once it has something to compare to.  A $600 PS3 may have been fine if there wasn't a $250 Wii and a $400 360.  Cartridges would be fine if there was no CD ROMs.  And the Wii U with touchscreen and a $300 price may sell like hot cakes when consumers compare it to a $450 PS4 and an Always Connected 720.  Or it may bomb against the $300 PS4 and $99 720, but we need to know what it will actually be competing against in the market.



zorg1000 said:
Why didnt u include sega?

Because Sega was never "riding high" and self-destroyed themselves. They had about 8% of the market in the NES days.  They bumped it up with the Genesis/Mega Drive by releasing early, but once the SNES released they were quickly overcome.  They were always second fiddle, and were just pushed out by Sony and MS.  They were never on top and didn't make any big mistakes to lose the top spot.  They fought the good fight, just never had the 1st or 3rd party software to win, and didn't have the corporate deep pockets of MS or Sony to buy their way into the market.



TheLastStarFighter said:
zorg1000 said:
Why didnt u include sega?

Because Sega was never "riding high" and self-destroyed themselves. They had about 8% of the market in the NES days.  They bumped it up with the Genesis/Mega Drive by releasing early, but once the SNES released they were quickly overcome.  They were always second fiddle, and were just pushed out by Sony and MS.  They were never on top and didn't make any big mistakes to lose the top spot.  They fought the good fight, just never had the 1st or 3rd party software to win, and didn't have the corporate deep pockets of MS or Sony to buy their way into the market.


ok that makes sense, they did make a lot of huge mistakes tho so its no wonder they had to leave the console market



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burninmylight said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
All mistakes are pretty massive, so I wouldn't be able to choose one.

About the always online thing: There are 76m 360s sold. There are 46m Xbox Live accounts. Why the fuck would MS want to lose 30m consumers out of the gate like that?

Either the rumours are false or they are incredibly stupid.


Are those 46 million active accounts, are accounts that have been created? I know a lot of folks that created multiple accounts for the free month of Gold.

Had to check. Active. Accounts that have logged in once in the last 8 months. Still...



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Once again we have a thread trolling a unannounced console with a unconfirmed rumour, this is getting very old very quickly. How about we slate Microsoft once they actually give you a justified reason.