not to the extent of DmC fanbase though it obviously exists. And I think with TR it made a lot of new fans so the overall reaction was a lot less negative. Wherea's DmC failed in that aspect, and mainly pissed off a large amount of old ones.

But I personally thought the new DmC was more like the old DMC's aside from being easy, and the artstyle. 

The new Tomb Raider felt like a cross between it's old self, uncharted, and resident evil to me. Which I liked a lot. But it was quite a drastic change from underworld (which I also liked a lot) or the other 8. Which aside from TR2, GoL, and Angel of Darkness, had a lot less action/puzzle ratio. And the most action oriented in the series. 

Wasnt a big fan of DMC 4 at all but the devil bringer was pretty fun. DMC wasnt casualized either, the auto/manual gameplay was just cut off and put on full auto.

TR made the right moves to reboot the franchise, but it was a little too much like Uncharted to me. Anyway, back to DMC the game could've made new fans but really depended on seasoned gamers to give it the push it needed and deserved. If the gaming community walks out on a game they'll carry word of mouth which is never a good thing. This game was sabotaged from start to finish.

It was great, easy and fun to control for new fans/beginners and with enough depth for more experienced players to show off.

I think this is a great lesson to the developers. Don't make games that your fans don't want! Make games that they do want! You'd think it's obvious, but it prooves to be a very difficult and somewhat painful lesso that crapcom and Squeenix are going through right now.

@DmC and TR reboots - old Lara was turned into a sexdoll and was off-putting. Everyone was tired of her, everyone wanted change. The new Lara looks great, ever since I saw her for the first time I knew they hit the jackpot. Dante... I think I don't have to tell you that he looks aweful. The old one was ultra cool, the new one is pathetic in every single aspect. The fans have been clear about this since the unveiling of the new look, so it only serves the devs right for ignoring us.

Fans: "we don't want this, we're not going to play it"

Devs: "we know better, you're gonna play it and love it, we know better"

Fans: "Oh rly?"

I'm very happy that this happened, cause it gives more power to the gamers. The devs have to listen to us and give us what we want. I'm extremely happy that crapcom is losing money since I'm boycotting them for boycotting Vita, but I feel sorry for Ninja Theory. They really should have stayed with Sony. Maybe they can still come back and make HS2 for Vita? I doubt anyone is gonna trust them with a huge budget now, so they can forget about going after a next gen game right now, but Vita could sure need an exclusive AAA quality HS2.

Also, I don't think this is the death of the franchise. Every single game before the reboot sold 3-4 mil copies, even DMC4. DmC will never reach 1 mil, it sold less than DMC HD Collection! This clearly goes to show that fans know what they want - old school DMC and old Dante. Just make a good game with these ingredients and it will sell. If DmC2 was supposed to have the new Dante - just forget about it, cause nobody wants to hear about such a game. It's not the fault of the fans, the devs hurt the franchise and the fans did everything the could to prevent this from happening, so I don't get it why you call them a bad fanbase.

Just listen to the fans, don't fight them.

I felt the same way about the old DMC games outside of part three.

The thing I wonder about Ninja Theory. Is their games have a certain artistic appeal, with their art and everything. And though I personally like it, and critics like it with HS, Enslaved and DmC. If that actually is something that appeals to a large amount of consumers.

The other game that I'd compare this too is Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, where the initial reaction was quite negative but it ended up being an overall success. But there are key differences in that previous castlevania 3D games weren't very good, and castlevania never sold that much anyways. 

I'm not sure what my point was, but I'm going to post this anyways X_x.

Ninja Theory talked  about the Dante redesign at GDC, they talked about what they think was wrong with the old design and among the pictures they use there was this one:

Are they implying that being gay is bad?

Are they implying that old Dante dressed as a homosexual cowboy and if they do what is wrong with homosexual cowboys?

Are they implying that Heath or Jake are not cool because they are gay?

Nah, in retrospect the whole thing was much adoe about nothing. They just made a mediocre game, enemies drop like flies and you get bored. The end.

Wrong, DMC was never a platformer.