Gears won whoo hoo!!!!! The axis of the earth is once again balanced. How many weeks out will this thread get updates for.? I think we can all agree both games are basically flops compared to their predecessors. I guess everybody will continue to argue which game flopped worse though.

I did predict that Gears drop off would the same or slightly more than God of War from week 1 to 2, so I was right Yesssss!.

Nice internet argument

Good point. That has been Sales' argument over the years about Forza and GT5. "But forza has sold more overall, so it's the bigger franchise". Knowing him, he'll realize his mistake and rationally admit that God of War is the bigger frachise. Yup, any minute now.

Just curious though. I saw several posts of 360 fans arguing that Gears fans refuse to buy this game, as it is a bad game and a prequel. Who's buying this game anyway then? Casuals?

I'd like to buy the game, as a Gears fan myself. But I don't feel like paying 60 euros for it, you know, because this game is not in my top priority list. I don't doubt it will be a good game, and it will have a great co-op campaing and modes to keep entertaining months after its purchase - something that happened with the other Gow's as well -. But it just feels tacked-on. I wouldn't have minded if they stopped the series in the third one. At least they could have waited more time before making this one. I don't know. I'm not in a hurry for it.

Waiting for a price cut is (almost) always a good idea. Even if it feels tacked-on, as long as it offers you months of entertainment, I say buy it and enjoy it. Prequel, sequel, doesn't matter as long as you're having fun.

I know, but it is what I'm telling you: I don't feel like paying for it full price. I payed full price for Gow3 and didn't regret it, but I will not hurry for it.

And yes, I agree. As long as you have fun - which is the main purpose of videogames - it doesn't matter wether it is a new Ip, the seventh entry in a franchise, the most putrid game ever done or a masterpiece.

Gears on consoles has outsold god of war on consoles.  As a complete franchise across 10 or 13 games God of war comes out on top against 4 gears games.  God of war has obviously made a lot of money, nobody is argueing with you on that, or else they wouldnt make them.

I am a huge gears fanatic and I havent bought Gears:J because they changed too much for the worst.  Soon as i saw EPIC wasnt making it my excitement quickly faded.  It is kind of like Uncharted Golden Abyss.  Sure it is uncharted but it leaves behind things that made it good in the first place like Naughty Dog.

Unofficially, you could add 964,831 on top of Gears Of War 1 sales.

I don't think that every change was for the worst. Indeed, there are some horrible things (Most of the modes don't have DBNO) or the fact that you hold two weapons now and switch pressing Y (So only Lancer and Gnasher, or Lancer and Snub Pistol). I liked the fact that grenades are thrown within a button, but that means no more proximity mines now.

However, you have not one, but two campaings. The second one being designed by Epic (In fact, the gameplay is a reminiscent of Gow3 and not Gow:J), you have Overrun (fuck, they ditched Horde ;_;) and you have co-op modes to keep you entertained for weeks. I don't see the problem, I just don't want to pay 60 for it. Perhaps 40 or 35 is more fair.

Series went downhill since gears 3. Even though gears 3 is supposedly made by Epic I can see people can fly's influence all over that game. That game abandoned the atmosphere of previous gears in favor of arcadey gameplay and now they've taken it even further with gears J. I shudder to think what gears 4 will be like.

I also don't get why you like grenades being thrown with one button. It was never that difficult in the previous gears to switch to nades and quick toss with a tap of RT. Mapping nades to the bumper just encourages spamming. That was not a change for the better, it feels like they are trying to mimick uncharted which is just sad. I can't think of any change they made that improved the game.