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i think hypochondria is the medical epidemic of our time



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

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Porcupine_I said:
i think hypochondria is the medical epidemic of our time


Don't believe ALL of that.  It's the doctors who are padding their wallets with nonstop patients and their "chronic ailments that need prescriptions monthly".

Are you aware of all of the drugs that are not filtered before going into city water supplies?  How does that make you feel that someone had a prescription, their body didn't metabolize it so it was either urinated or pooped into the sewers, not filtered before released into the water supply and then some water supplies down river picking those drugs up and passing them to their users.  It happens!

Serious amounts of Valium show up in many rivers and quite a few fish species are losing their regular behaviors like evading bigger fish/spawning properly because of this?



Psyberius said:
Porcupine_I said:
i think hypochondria is the medical epidemic of our time


Don't believe ALL of that.  It's the doctors who are padding their wallets with nonstop patients and their "chronic ailments that need prescriptions monthly".

Are you aware of all of the drugs that are not filtered before going into city water supplies?  How does that make you feel that someone had a prescription, their body didn't metabolize it so it was either urinated or pooped into the sewers, not filtered before released into the water supply and then some water supplies down river picking those drugs up and passing them to their users.  It happens!

Serious amounts of Valium show up in many rivers and quite a few fish species are losing their regular behaviors like evading bigger fish/spawning properly because of this?

i am not sure what you trying to say with that. but i agree that it is good business for doctors to treat patients weather they need treatment or not.

but to elaborate what i wanted to say is that i feel like there are more and more people feel to be "entiteled" to have some kind of mental disease so they can go on and feel sorry for themselves. but i am not trying to say the diseases don't exist at all.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Porcupine_I said:
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but to elaborate what i wanted to say is that i feel like there are more and more people feel to be "entiteled" to have some kind of mental disease so they can go on and feel sorry for themselves. but i am not trying to say the diseases don't exist at all.


The problem is that there is no set "Bipolar Test" that can be performed that shows if you are or how bad you are off.

Some day they might have a way to test the chemicals in your brain to get some sort of an idea if you have any major deficiencies or major excesses.

It makes me CRINGE when I see some lying sack of poop blame a brain fart on their imagined case of being bipolar.



Porcupine_I said:
Psyberius said:
Porcupine_I said:
i think hypochondria is the medical epidemic of our time


Don't believe ALL of that.  It's the doctors who are padding their wallets with nonstop patients and their "chronic ailments that need prescriptions monthly".

Are you aware of all of the drugs that are not filtered before going into city water supplies?  How does that make you feel that someone had a prescription, their body didn't metabolize it so it was either urinated or pooped into the sewers, not filtered before released into the water supply and then some water supplies down river picking those drugs up and passing them to their users.  It happens!

Serious amounts of Valium show up in many rivers and quite a few fish species are losing their regular behaviors like evading bigger fish/spawning properly because of this?

i am not sure what you trying to say with that. but i agree that it is good business for doctors to treat patients weather they need treatment or not.

but to elaborate what i wanted to say is that i feel like there are more and more people feel to be "entiteled" to have some kind of mental disease so they can go on and feel sorry for themselves. but i am not trying to say the diseases don't exist at all.

The thing is, you can't just blame those people....everyone does it in some form or another.
It's like cigarettes. People say don't smoke it's bad for you. While that's true, EVERYONE self-medicates, whether it be food, prescription drugs, addictions like videogames/sex/gambling.

The point is, sure, there are a lot of people who blame foibles on mental illness, and use it as a crutch, but everyone does it; Whether they use a crutch such as a broken bone, some shadowy aggressor out to get them, bad bosses, some dude who pushed them in the bus that morning. Everyone makes excuses for their missteps. It's just easy to isolate this excuse because, while us normal people can say "yeah, a bad boss encounter can ruin your day", it's hard for us to imagine thinking completely differently. That is why so many ads about autism and aspergers and mental illness focus on explaining how it feels, like "it feels like being awake for 48 hours and then taking a math test you haven't studied for", or social anxiety disorder feels like being on camera in times square during new years, when you're really just in a library.



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Psyberius said:
spurgeonryan said:

Seems like everyday we see something new in the news. Mom kills kids because she is "Bipolar". Actor sleeps with Prostitute because she is Bipolar.

Person commited suicide because they are either bipolar or suicidal.

Has anyone else noticed this? Seems to be an excuse for everything these days. Everyone is depressed and everyone is bipolar.

 

'Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me people just need to grow up and stop being a bunch of punks! I took drugs because I was depressed! I did not do this or that because I was depressed.

Some may have some sort of mental condition that would go with these symptoms, but half of Americans? Bullshit! Just more of American Society Enabling this babied foolz! IMO

 

http://bipolar.about.com/u/ua/psychoticfeatures/ua_hallucinations.01.htm

 

I apologize if you think you have it. But half the country is not bipolar or depressed or something associated with these two medical problems. Look deep down.....do you really believe you have one of these disorders? Or are you just a baby who has been babied your whole life?

 

Forget Aids! These two epidemics are wayyyy worse!

Being Seriously Bi-polar I, I can tell you that when you are manic, that it's like being on recreational drugs.  I know because i experimented with them in my early 20's.  I'm in my early 40's now and when i'm seriously manic, it's like being on shrooms or acid along with extasy along with some sort of upper. (I didn't try every drug when I was younger but i'm sure one of them is like how I can get.  I actually think that my extasy use made my bipolar much, much worse...I didn't abuse it like some people do however I did enough and seeing how a manic episode works, the two looks so related its scary).  When manic I make bad decisions, I say stupid things, the more I don't sleep and when you're manic, it's impossible to sleep, the worse I get.   I have my GF take my keys to my car and I exist on anything I can make in the toaster or microwave because i've almost lit fires while using the stove and forgot to take something off that was on a burner.

Strangely enough, some of the dumber bi-polar people purposefully go off their drugs so that they force a manic episode to make themselves feel good.

When I am depressed and thank god that the medication I am on now keeps me from going seriously depressed anymore, the feeling of self loathing, of hatred for how you feel is so bad that you literally want to kill yourself.  Yes, it can get that bad.

NOW, that being said, most people are a> not bipolar b> not seriously enough bipolar that it explains their problems.  I know a ton of people who explain someone's mood swings are being bipolar which is absolutely not right.  I believe that there are tons of depressed people but those feelings of depression are psychologically caused by their environment and such, not physiological like bi-polar and clinical depression are.  Clinical depression can be caused by a drop in endorphins...the main chemicals in your brain that make you feel good.  A long term drop in endorphin production can and does cause you to be depressed...even without situational problems.

The statistics say that like less than 5% of people show any type of bi-polar like mood behaviors and a very very very small portion of those are seriously bi-polar (Bipolar 1 like I am.)   Most of the people you see and hear about are just making excuses for their behvavior.  It's easy to use BP as an excuses because its extremely hard to PROVE you're BP or not like alone which level of BP you are  I, II or Cyclothymia.

If someone is saying they are BP to explain some sort of thing they did, I doubt that BP was the reason in almost all the cases.  Most BP people I know want as few people to know about what they are capable of.  Being out of control is embarassing.  It's not as bad as being 90 years old and shitting the bed but it's not much better.  For me I am a control freak when it comes to my behavior so the loss of control on a manic episode makes me suffer immensely.  To limit the damage of these episodes, I know when I am starting to go manic so I batten down the hatches and put myself in a good position to limit the damage to my life.  

These other people talking about how they when BP and mental?  Sorry....they're either a> lying b> idiots for not managing their condition c> a small chance that they don't have a support system/system of making sure they're safe until things calm down.

This doctor concurs. Great post.



spurgeonryan said:
theprof00 said:
Wow spurge, your "I know better than everyone else" sure isn't isolated to mafia games.
Count yourself extremely lucky that you don't have mental disorders.



You seriously believe half of depression and bi-polar cases in America?

 

Also...I do not even get headaches!

I don't like arguing with people who I'm currently in a mafia game with, but just to retort, it is not your place to decide who has what. People have problems. That's life. Many people fake problems, it's true, but those people obviously have deeper seated problems. It's important for strong people to look after the weak and set an example for the less strong so that they take care of the weak as well. Our standing in society and internationally will be built upon our cohesiveness. The more we attack the people within, the less of a threat we pose without.



I think someone explained it best by comparing headaches to depression. Sure, you can deal with your headache without Tylenol or Advil, but it's easier to just do away with the pain for most.

I'd rather they be medicated as opposed to drunks or drug addicts, etc. Those types of individuals pose a much larger threat to me than people under the supervision of a medical professional.

Really though, I think it's just people reluctant to face their own problems.



Although some people may have serious cases of said 'disorders,' it's pathetic how easy 'doctors' claim some 'patients' to have a 'disorder' with a simple bad temper.



All of this, of course, is just my opinion.

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I hate this type of stuff. Its just a way of medically trying to justify "not having your shit together". Im referring to being "depressed", not bipolar.

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