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Nem on 28 March 2013

By the way... its also not coming to the PS4! Where is the Japanese support we were promised for the PS4?!

Doooooommzz!



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Conegamer on 28 March 2013

I feel as though I've missed something. It's a current gen multiplatform, so no real shock here.



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

milkyjoe on 28 March 2013

If MGS is the metric, then Nintendo haven't had "Japanese support" since the NES, unless we're going to count Twin Snakes and MGS3D.



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Barozi on 28 March 2013
RazorDragon said:
Barozi said:
RazorDragon said:
Soundwave said:
RazorDragon said:
If this is a console only multiplatform, then it'll be a loss. If it's available on PC, though, it really doesn't matter whether Wii U gets the game or not.


So I guess Watch Dogs on Wii U is pointless too? I'd recoken most/many Wii U owners don't have a high end gaming PC. 


It is pointless, as PC version will be better anyway and, also, cheaper. You don't need to have a high end gaming PC to be able to play games better than on consoles.

Not everyone buys a new PC every ~5 years though, because if you don't play games on it there aren't many reasons to upgrade. And even most of today's laptops under $1000 can't run games higher than 30FPS on medium settings. PC versions of multiplat games usually sell a bit below the 360 and the PS3 versions (even if it has a PC focus, such as Battlefield), so the amount of non-pirate PC gamers that have a decent enough rig to run last gen games is what ? 50-60m ?

So it's more like the PC version that is pointless because the majority of people will get it elsewhere.

Most games cannot be enjoyed on low settings. That's why the most successful games on PC don't have advanced graphics or can be adjusted down without losing anything important, so "everyone" can play it. Minecraft, World of Warcraft, Diablo 3 etc.

Watch Dogs on low settings would probably look like San Andreas (dramatized).


If you bought a mid-range PC 5 years ago(2008), you would have a Phenom X3/Core 2 Duo processor, 2GB DDR2 RAM and a PCI-E compatible motherboard. You would just need to buy a new graphics card to be able to play new games on high settings.

My rig has tech from 2008, it's a Phenom X3 8650 2.3GHz and has 2GB RAM DDR2. I have a GTS 450 on my PC and almost every new game I buy I can play on high settings at 768p and >40FPS. Altough sometime you will need to upgrade your entire PC, after 5 years I can still play games on high changing only my GPU. If you bought a mid-range PC back in the day, you could still upgrade your processor(to a Phenom II or Core 2 Quad) and RAM without needing to change the motherboard(and thus the whole PC) if extra performance is needed to run new games. If you buy console games for 5 years, the extra money you spent on them would probably be enough to upgrade your PC thanks to the price difference.

I agree with the part that most games cannot be enjoyed on low settings, but thanks to how long this gen has dragged on, you'll only have problems running games on high/medium settings if your PC is too old, has an Atom processor or both. Also, Minecraft and Diablo 3 are quite taxing on the PC, you won't run those easily with a old PC.

Which is all fine and right, but this is the time where games improve a lot faster than before. I doubt you can run BF3 on high settings. MGS V has a completely new "next gen ready" engine and Watch Dogs also looks rather advanced. GTA V is likely going to be just as unoptimized for PC as GTA IV was.
From there on it's only going to get "worse" for such old PCs.

Also only 2 GB RAM ? I know several games that need far more than that on high settings. (Still running XP ?)



Vinniegambini on 28 March 2013
mutantclown said:
Vinniegambini said:
Pointless thread.

Metal Gear Solid entries have mostly been Sony platform exclusives for the past decade in Japan. This will not change.

Nintendo already has DQ and Monster Hunter on the Wii U from Japanese studios. More will come; one needs to be patient as games take time to develop and publishers need the necessary install base in order to recoup development costs from their games.

Furthermore, Japanese support for Playstation 3 was not apparent until the release of Final Fantasy XIII - 3 years later after the release of the console. Can people give the Wii U some time before they write it off completely?


Capcom supported the PS3 from the start, Namco, Konami (MGS4, Pro Evo, Silent Hill Homecoming) , Sega (Sonic, Yakuza, Virtua Fighter, Valkyria, Virtua Tennis , etc), NIS (Disgaea 3), Tecmo...

Metal Gear Solid 4 never materialized until 2 years after the release of the PS3. Not every Japanese developpers were on board from the start.............

Hence my claim of Playstation 3 not getting full support from Japanese developpers until FXIII came............



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superchunk on 28 March 2013

Unless I missed it somewhere, pretty sure it wasn't confirmed for any next-gen hardware yet and definitely not directly denied to any of them either. I thought it specifically said that they'd announce that info at E3.



S.T.A.G.E. on 28 March 2013
think-man said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
think-man said:
If we are gunna make a thread for every multiplat game that doesn't make the WiiU then this websites going to be a very sad place...


They need to stop being disappointed. I warned them about this months ago when we saw the Wii U's specs and already got an indicator of what third parties wanted. Nintendo will be about the exclusives so Nintendo owners have nothing to worry about when it comes to getting their core nintendo fix this gen. Its definitely not going to be the console the Wii was and thats both a blessing and a curse.

Yep  they'll get a few this year and some next year, but once the devs move to next gen they will leave ps360 and the WiiU behind.


Exactly.



DanneSandin on 28 March 2013
Player2 said:
teigaga said:
RolStoppable said:
Promised by who? Perhaps kowenicki? I remember him saying that Nintendo will dominate Japan.

Metal Gear Rising not coming to the Wii U doesn't have anything to do with Platinum Games. It's Konami's decision; a company that has stayed clear of Nintendo home consoles for a long time now.

Anyway, I for one am shocked that a Nintendo console that is powerful enough to run any PS3/360 multiplatform title gets hardly any of said titles.

Developers feel too comfortable with the combined ps3/360 userbase. Really I blame Nintendo for not securing any big 3rd party titles for Q1, even if it meant financing it themselfs. If Tomb Raider, DMC, MSG Rising or Bioshock came to the wii U on time, I'm sure it would sell enough to convince 3rd parties thats ports are worth their effort. 

Instead 3r parties only have Assasins creed and COD. AC was late and COD has too strong of an emphasis on multiplayer.

Bioshock would have been the Ideal game to demonstrate that the Wii audience are hungry for Quality and mature 3rd party experiences.

Only a fool would pay for the same treatment others get for free. Third parties didn't need anything to start making PS4 and 720 versions of their upcoming games despite not knowing anything about how those platforms will perform early in their lifecycle.

Only a fool would let their console go almost 6 months without any games releasing outside of a handfull titles...



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Rogerioandrade on 28 March 2013

Are you still surprised ?

Many Japanese franchises have been skipped from Nintendo home consoles since the N64. Want to name them ? Metal Gear Solid. Street Fighter. Final Fantasy. Tekken. Castlevania. Dead or Alive. And the list goes on and on. A few spin-offs maybe, but the main games have been all skipped.

Why would it be different this time ? Why would we expect something different ? There´s nothing here that both we and Nintendo have not experienced before.



Player2 on 28 March 2013
DanneSandin said:
 

Only a fool would let their console go almost 6 months without any games releasing outside of a handfull titles...

Stop the Vita trolling already.