Mr Puggsly said: phenom08 said: Mr Puggsly said: hinch said: No, but motion gaming was. Its the reason why the Wii, PS Move and Kinect had such a massive drop off in sales. Once everybody got past the wow factor - "wow I can actually use my body to control the game!", nobody gave two shits about it. The casuals got bored and went to mobile games instead and the other gamers went back to playing with a normal controller. I disagree. Wii saw a drop off because of the abysmal library and the capabilities of the platform were too limited. PS Move sold well at first like a lot of over hyped devices, but nobody anticipated success beyond that.   Kinect has had a great run, its still being pushed and millions of Kinect games were sold in 2012 (even excluding Kinect Adventure). The are just sales from 2012... 37 Kinect Sports (X360) Microsoft Game Studios, Sports 113 1,598,026 57 Kinect Star Wars (X360) Microsoft Game Studios, Action 39 1,211,502 7 Just Dance 4 X360 2012 Misc Ubisoft 0.67 0.12 0.00 0.07 0.86 3 Dance Central 3 X360 2012 Misc Microsoft Game Studios 0.39 0.11 0.00 0.05 0.55 Here's a taste of how some other Kinect games performed in 2012... Kinect Sports 2 sold over 500K. Kinectimals sold alsmost 300K. Dance Central 2 sold 500K. Dance Central 1 sold 358K. Just Dance 3 sold over 500K. Zumba sold 671K. Your Shape 2012 sold 573K. Fable sold a measly 140K. Clearly casuals haven't abandon the Kinect. Its still a good draw for casuals.   Motion devices like Wiimote and Move are pretty much dead. But there is still demand for devices like Kinect and they've begun integrating that technology in televisions. Also with the abysmal performance of the Wii U, maybe the Xbox 720 and Kinect 2 will get much of that motion gaming audience. Lol if Wii remote is dead then so is Kinect. Those software sales are terrible. Just Dance 4 on Wii sold more than Kinect's two highest selling games this year combined. Im positive the Wii sold more software this year than Kinect easily. Just Dance 4 was bundled with the hardware and Wii still has a massive casual userbase. But the Wii isn't selling for shit and they aren't migrating to the Wii U.

Wii doesn't need to sell it sold more in 5 years than 360 can in 10. Those Kinect games were bundled as well and yet still sold like crap. Just Dance 3 wasnt bundled and sold much better than anything has yet on Kinect lol. Your WiiU comment makes you sound very butthurt by the way.

You kept discussing it with me, so how was it off topic?

It was off topic to begin with but you took it to a whole new level with the trolling (Which you didn't need to ask how it was trolling so I assume you are aware you were trolling). I humored your point and showed how it was inaccurate by every measure of the word that matters to us the consumer. But some reason you want to ignore those and call it a failure anyway and then shift focus to financials and call it a failure again.

You also seem to have Ricky Bobby syndrome, "if you aren't first, you're last." Which is absurd... unless you want to call Samsung a failure in the mobile department because they are behind Apple... but I don't think ANYONE would claim that Galaxy sales are a failure

Wii doesn't need to sell... good because it can't with such little support. Instead Nintendo is making Wii U a smassive success.

Wii userbase is significantly larger than the Kinect userbase. So comparing them directly is totally fair.

Eitherway I anticipate is rise on motion devices like Kinect and decline on devices like Wiimote. Its inevitable.

You didnt point out anything inaccurate lol. I didnt ignore a thing, you did precisely what you told another poster not to do. You did it to defend the PS3 at all cost. But ill drop it since it will get no where, just like you claim I ignored everything you brought up, you do the same to the posters saying Wii isnt. I even got you to contradict yourself.

What the fuck are you talking about? Seriously? Now I am beyond befuddled by your comment. I have no way to answer you because I have no clue how you came to such a notion that I said anything of the sort. I don't see how calling something a fad equates to calling something a failure and I don't know how looking at trends of one gen to the next is equatable to what I said at all.

You completely took what I said out of context first of all. The person I said that to was not in anway comparing Ps1 to Wii to determine success or failure. I have no clue how you think you are even remotely close at making a point here

Which are few games when compared to the massive generic shooter library they have, while Wii's library is much more diverse in the sense that there isn't a genre dominance, as Wii received games that wouldn't even be possible on the 360/PS3 before Move/Kinect arrived. I hope you understand my point. I'm absolutely fine if you disagree with it, that's my opinion and not a fact, anyway.

You are right thats precisely what Ninty is doing because unlike some companies, Ninty can actually revive their plats in less than a year. Yes comparing Kinect and Wii is fair because Kinect wont exactly sell better with time lol. Its been dropping since release. Kinect in its prime cant compete with Wii why will it be able to compete later? Lol no devices wont be more Kinect like than Wii remote like, you realize Wii remotes are still being used on WiiU right? As a matter of fact, I will be more than willing to bet Wii Sports U sells more than any of Kinect 2.0 games lol.