I'll agree that the gamepad doesn't add anything that people value. But it could have been worse, there could have been a serious error in the design, like the Game Gear battey life, the Jaguar processors or the entire Virtual boy. So far, it seems like a bland platform because nothing about it stands out.

But what is the number one thing that can bring appeal to a console and make it stand out?

Because the thread encourages the same kind of narrow-minded thinking. "It can't be saved, deal with it."

And i'm not trying to intimidate, except to the degree that i don't want to have to moderate people. Despite what my reputation might imply, i don't like to. Declaring it "dead" steps over the line, and would be the case for other consoles as well.

I believe the real problem is in how Nintendo handled the Wii after 2010. They completely stopped releasing games for it, causing 3rd parties to do the same, thus making the system irrelevant in the market and throwing people's expectations of more awesome games through the roof(after 2010 which was the best year software-wise for the Wii, IMO). It wouldn't be a problem if Wii U was released 6 months after the drought, but it wasn't. After dropping Wii support, they took 2 years to release the successor. People lost confidence on Nintendo, and that's a hard thing to regain.

If Wii U is a much better product than Wii, why the market has rejected it?

You won't have a problem with GameCube-esque sales, but Nintendo will. Bear in mind that Nintendo is already losing money with the current Wii U price, HD games are much more expensive to develope so they need to sell more units to become profitable. Then we have a portable console that is struggling hard outside Japan. 3DS profit margin is tiny, even less if they decide to cut its price when Pokémon X / Y is released.

Nintendo could afford to sell Gamecube for 199 dollars without losing money, or very little at the beginning. I can't even think about the money they will lose when they cut Wii U price. Knowing Iwata I'm already seeing a 100 dollar cut. Most of the benefits from that era were due to Game Boy Advance, 3DS (and Wii U software) won't be able to offset Wii U losses.

Until last fiscal year, Nintendo never lost money. This fiscal year ending 31 March 2013 they will lose money too. Having losses for a third year in a row (and that's likely with the current scenario) would be a complete tragedy for this company.

Why close this thread when it's brining nothing,but good ideas no one is getting mad at anyone.

This is a good organized thread lol.

This thread was never intended to encourage that type of thinking. I was encouriging gamers and Nintendo fans to give me reasons why games are the Wii U's answer. Now before you say the 3DS is a good example it also had a price drop. Games are not the only thing as seen with the GameCube which is the reason why I made this thread. To figure out if games are the real problem here.

No. I was talking about the NDF comment, not yours, which states in the first word that is your opinion and there's nothing wrong with it. Also, I'm not trying to intimidate you, that just the hyperbole of the other poster who didn't know the context of the post and just create misuderstandings.

And about the my post, labelling the fans of certain company as just "Defence Force" is insulting when the only thing we are doing is trying to discuss the topic presented in this thread. Maybe I'm oversensitive and any other poster would have passed, but I don't and at least we deserve to be taked in count with our arguments.

Systems do not sell if there aren't games out that people want to buy.  It pretty simple actually and it's not just reserved for Nintendo systems either.

Bar Pikmin and a Resident Evil exlusive (NOT a new franchise), I have not heard of those other games which says it all really.

Sonic was not new so no  one really cared, and the other games are targeted at a tiny Western Market and a Jap market. That is why it doesn't sell well. The West now wants new franchises every generation and a majority of Western styled games (a few slip past eg FF series, SotC etc). Nintendo do not offer that.

My argument is utterly valid, otherwise why didn't the console sell? Hm? Why not? There is a reason, so stop pretending like it sold well when it did not. That is simple denial.

I've never heard of many games, and that doesn't change the fact that they exist. Your argument is invalid because every game you mentioned that wasn't exclusive had a Gamecube version, and the GC offered new franchises and Western styled games. Hell, GC even had an exclusive MGS game.

Also, I don't know if you read my first post, but, as I said there, there's no understandable reason GC sold so low IMO, and, whatever the reason was, it certainly didn't had any correlation with the games.