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osed125 on 17 March 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
I'll post this again in here for those who missed it:

Nintendo shipped 3million in Wii U's first quarter... respectable number actually... till you realize Nintendo realizes they overshipped and didn't meet their expectations on top of that so they lower their estimates to 4mil total after it's second quarter... so 1 million in 3 months...

Possible? Well considering Wii U only sold 120k in 2 months and will sell similarly in it's 3rd month then in US alone it will sell a measly 180k in 3 months. Add Mexico and Canada you get 200k... We know Europe is worse than NA and Japan due to Nintendo's own financials. VGC has it at 90k with another 4 weeks left... VGC has it selling 6k a week... so add another 40k for the next for weeks and you get 130k for Europe.... 330k in 2 markets. Now for Japan, famitsu and mediacrete have it selling at 173k and another 4 weeks till end of quarter. So add 40k and you get 213k in Japan... Nintendo will sell less than 543k at it's current pace. Even if games raise I don't see it being much more than another 50k...

Now, considering Nintendo will ship less than they sell to reduce the overstock from Holiday sales they will probably miss their revised shipment by about 400k.

So in the first half woth of fiscal year the Wii U is on the market Nintendo will ship about 3.6mil and sell through about 2.6mil (Which is funny because this is what VGC has it at right now... Which I'm assuming is from them overtracking NA by 200k in Dec.

Now, how much will it sell in it's second half of the year? Bet it's less than 2.6mil. Wii U will sell less than 5mil by Sept.

Now people really expect Mario, which has always been popular since it's inception, will increase it's sales by how much? Let's be realistic here. The Wii U will not touch the Wii on any level. Why do I expect Wii U to go back to pre-Wii levels? Well because that's really Nintendo's market cap. The Wii captured a new audience which won't be back to any system this gen. Wii U will be lucky to reach NES level of sales. Especially when you realize it's tracking below Nintendo's weakest system to date.

 

You do realize that almost all consoles (PS3, Vita, 360, 3DS) underpreforms their first year? So your logic applies to pretty much every single console in history. When I think about it the only exceptions where companies didn't lowered their estimates during their first year were the PS2 and the Wii.

@bold: Would you please link to poster actually saying the Wii U will sell the same numbers as the Wii? Every since the Wii U announcement I have only seen like 2 or 3 poster saying that the system will sell the same. Every sane person here (including Nintendo fans) know the system will never touch Wii numbers (unless a miracle happens).

Also you haven't respond the question as to why MK 7 and Mario 3D Land sold so well (and are still selling).

 

I said it won't even come close to the Wii's sales. I didn't say people were claiming it would match Wii's sales. But people have said (less so now with reality sinking in) that the Wii U will sell well being close to matching the Wii's sales. I don't think I need to trudge through last years threads to find any.

Also, yeah... Ps3 and 360 sold about 5million their first year on the market. I was really being generous saying under 5mil for the Wii U... more likely than not it will be closer to 3.8mil. I just wanted to leave some breathing room for myself. I never said my logic didn't apply to those systems but it doesn't mean the Wii U is fine right now. And the Wii U is not suffering from either of the problems the 360 and Ps3 suffered from. High price, Japan not wanting 360, and supply constrained

Like I mentioned before all consoles suffer from 1 big thing: no games. Keep in mind the Wii U already has the record of longest time without a new game release (finally Lego and Monster Hunter will launch this week), so obviously the system will have a heavy drop, we will see if only 2 games are able to make the system sell (hint: they won't).

The 360 may have been on supply constraints but I highly doubt those "constraints" lasted one whole year (the system finally started to pick up with Gears of Wars), same with the PS3 (the one that help the system was MGS4).

Like I already said, if Mario Kart nor 3D Mario don't help the system then we will know for sure the system will share the same faith as the N64 and GC, that won't happen imo because those games are very popular (I start to sound like a broke record here).

Also no way the system will sell less than 4m during it's first year (unless Nintendo is stupid enough to not release their big guns this year).



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ninjablade on 17 March 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
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And the Wii U sold more units in 4 months than the PS3 and the 360 (the PS3 not so much here because the numbers in the article do not include Europe sales), and the 360 didn't had supply constraint, people were on the fence because of the RROD fiasco plus not really most have games (things stared to change when Gears of Wars launched one year after the 360 launch). 

You can pretty much summarize consoles launch like this: 

360 - RROD and no games

PS3 - $599 and no games

3DS - "too expensive" and no games

Vita - same as 3DS

Wii U - no marketing and no games 

The pattern is pretty obvious, consoles (yes I'm including the 3DS and Vita here) sell because of games, if there are non, then people will simple aren't going to buy it. 

And about the Wii U momentum, how can we really measure that when there are simple no games since launch? This week Lego and Monster Hunter will launch so we will see if those 2 games help the hardware sales (hint: not by much). Now, if 3D Mario nor Mario Kart (plus other 1st party games) don't do any significant in terms of sales then we will know for sure the Wii U will share the same faith as the N64 and GC. Will that happen? imo no, why? because those franchises are very popular (the 3DS game sales reflect that). I could be wrong though, but as of right now, unless you are speculating you CAN'T be sure that a Mario Kart or 3D Mario won't make the system sell.



First of all, and I already pointed this out, VGC has Wii U overtracked MAJORLY. VGC overtracked Wii U in US alone by 200k units in Dec. Wii U hasn't sold through 2.6mil yet. They MIGHT reach that number at the end of March.

Lastly, you are flat out wroing about the launches.


I love how he ingore the fact that ps3 best territory europe, is not even counted, and that's also wiiu weakest territory, and the the 360 was extremely supply constrained till april 06, so you ahave a console that was extremely supply constrained and a 599$ that's missing its bread and butter numbers, europe vs wiiu which is actually had a very good price and was readily available.



osed125 on 17 March 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
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And the Wii U sold more units in 4 months than the PS3 and the 360 (the PS3 not so much here because the numbers in the article do not include Europe sales), and the 360 didn't had supply constraint, people were on the fence because of the RROD fiasco plus not really most have games (things stared to change when Gears of Wars launched one year after the 360 launch). 

You can pretty much summarize consoles launch like this: 

360 - RROD and no games

PS3 - $599 and no games

3DS - "too expensive" and no games

Vita - same as 3DS

Wii U - no marketing and no games 

The pattern is pretty obvious, consoles (yes I'm including the 3DS and Vita here) sell because of games, if there are non, then people will simple aren't going to buy it. 

And about the Wii U momentum, how can we really measure that when there are simple no games since launch? This week Lego and Monster Hunter will launch so we will see if those 2 games help the hardware sales (hint: not by much). Now, if 3D Mario nor Mario Kart (plus other 1st party games) don't do any significant in terms of sales then we will know for sure the Wii U will share the same faith as the N64 and GC. Will that happen? imo no, why? because those franchises are very popular (the 3DS game sales reflect that). I could be wrong though, but as of right now, unless you are speculating you CAN'T be sure that a Mario Kart or 3D Mario won't make the system sell.



First of all, and I already pointed this out, VGC has Wii U overtracked MAJORLY. VGC overtracked Wii U in US alone by 200k units in Dec. Wii U hasn't sold through 2.6mil yet. They MIGHT reach that number at the end of March.

Lastly, you are flat out wroing about the launches.

According to NPD 2013 the Wii U is undertracked by 28,217 units (not by much but it's something), can't remember the January NPD sales but those were very similar to VGC (correct me if I'm wrong here), so the numbers are probably close to each other.

Also, why I'm wrong on those launches? those were the reasons those systems had slow sales at the beginning, you can add supply constraints if you want (although I would want to see a source about this) but those never were more than a few of months. 



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Max King of the Wild on 17 March 2013
osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
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You do realize that almost all consoles (PS3, Vita, 360, 3DS) underpreforms their first year? So your logic applies to pretty much every single console in history. When I think about it the only exceptions where companies didn't lowered their estimates during their first year were the PS2 and the Wii.

@bold: Would you please link to poster actually saying the Wii U will sell the same numbers as the Wii? Every since the Wii U announcement I have only seen like 2 or 3 poster saying that the system will sell the same. Every sane person here (including Nintendo fans) know the system will never touch Wii numbers (unless a miracle happens).

Also you haven't respond the question as to why MK 7 and Mario 3D Land sold so well (and are still selling).

I said it won't even come close to the Wii's sales. I didn't say people were claiming it would match Wii's sales. But people have said (less so now with reality sinking in) that the Wii U will sell well being close to matching the Wii's sales. I don't think I need to trudge through last years threads to find any.

Also, yeah... Ps3 and 360 sold about 5million their first year on the market. I was really being generous saying under 5mil for the Wii U... more likely than not it will be closer to 3.8mil. I just wanted to leave some breathing room for myself. I never said my logic didn't apply to those systems but it doesn't mean the Wii U is fine right now. And the Wii U is not suffering from either of the problems the 360 and Ps3 suffered from. High price, Japan not wanting 360, and supply constrained

Like I mentioned before all consoles suffer from 1 big thing: no games. Keep in mind the Wii U already has the record of longest time without a new game release (finally Lego and Monster Hunter will launch this week), so obviously the system will have a heavy drop, we will see if only 2 games are able to make the system sell (hint: they won't).

The 360 may have been on supply constraints but I highly doubt those "constraints" lasted one whole year (the system finally started to pick up with Gears of Wars), same with the PS3 (the one that help the system was MGS4).

Like I already said, if Mario Kart nor 3D Mario don't help the system then we will know for sure the system will share the same faith as the N64 and GC, that won't happen imo because those games are very popular (I start to sound like a broke record here).

Also no way the system will sell less than 4m during it's first year (unless Nintendo is stupid enough to not release their big guns this year).

At the end of this month it will already be in two quarters. Those 2 quarters are bigger than the next two quarters. Nintendo is struggling with shipping one million this quarter. Sell through will be less than 3 million at the end of the quarter. You are telling me you think nintendo will sell over 1.4 more million in the slowest time of the year? Which averages 55k a week when it gets 55k in 4 weeks in US?



Max King of the Wild on 17 March 2013
osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
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And the Wii U sold more units in 4 months than the PS3 and the 360 (the PS3 not so much here because the numbers in the article do not include Europe sales), and the 360 didn't had supply constraint, people were on the fence because of the RROD fiasco plus not really most have games (things stared to change when Gears of Wars launched one year after the 360 launch). 

You can pretty much summarize consoles launch like this: 

360 - RROD and no games

PS3 - $599 and no games

3DS - "too expensive" and no games

Vita - same as 3DS

Wii U - no marketing and no games 

The pattern is pretty obvious, consoles (yes I'm including the 3DS and Vita here) sell because of games, if there are non, then people will simple aren't going to buy it. 

And about the Wii U momentum, how can we really measure that when there are simple no games since launch? This week Lego and Monster Hunter will launch so we will see if those 2 games help the hardware sales (hint: not by much). Now, if 3D Mario nor Mario Kart (plus other 1st party games) don't do any significant in terms of sales then we will know for sure the Wii U will share the same faith as the N64 and GC. Will that happen? imo no, why? because those franchises are very popular (the 3DS game sales reflect that). I could be wrong though, but as of right now, unless you are speculating you CAN'T be sure that a Mario Kart or 3D Mario won't make the system sell.



First of all, and I already pointed this out, VGC has Wii U overtracked MAJORLY. VGC overtracked Wii U in US alone by 200k units in Dec. Wii U hasn't sold through 2.6mil yet. They MIGHT reach that number at the end of March.

Lastly, you are flat out wroing about the launches.

According to NPD 2013 the Wii U is undertracked by 28,217 units (not by much but it's something), can't remember the January NPD sales but those were very similar to VGC (correct me if I'm wrong here), so the numbers are probably close to each other.

Also, why I'm wrong on those launches? those were the reasons those systems had slow sales at the beginning, you can add supply constraints if you want (although I would want to see a source about this) but those never were more than a few of months. 

Jan VGC had Wii U overtracked by 22k. Wii U is overtracked. Shipments kinda proved that when Nintendo said they shipped 3mil and is readily availble at every store and VGC had it sold at 2.3mil which would make it pretty supply constrained.



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osed125 on 17 March 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
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You do realize that almost all consoles (PS3, Vita, 360, 3DS) underpreforms their first year? So your logic applies to pretty much every single console in history. When I think about it the only exceptions where companies didn't lowered their estimates during their first year were the PS2 and the Wii.

@bold: Would you please link to poster actually saying the Wii U will sell the same numbers as the Wii? Every since the Wii U announcement I have only seen like 2 or 3 poster saying that the system will sell the same. Every sane person here (including Nintendo fans) know the system will never touch Wii numbers (unless a miracle happens).

Also you haven't respond the question as to why MK 7 and Mario 3D Land sold so well (and are still selling).

I said it won't even come close to the Wii's sales. I didn't say people were claiming it would match Wii's sales. But people have said (less so now with reality sinking in) that the Wii U will sell well being close to matching the Wii's sales. I don't think I need to trudge through last years threads to find any.

Also, yeah... Ps3 and 360 sold about 5million their first year on the market. I was really being generous saying under 5mil for the Wii U... more likely than not it will be closer to 3.8mil. I just wanted to leave some breathing room for myself. I never said my logic didn't apply to those systems but it doesn't mean the Wii U is fine right now. And the Wii U is not suffering from either of the problems the 360 and Ps3 suffered from. High price, Japan not wanting 360, and supply constrained

 

Like I mentioned before all consoles suffer from 1 big thing: no games. Keep in mind the Wii U already has the record of longest time without a new game release (finally Lego and Monster Hunter will launch this week), so obviously the system will have a heavy drop, we will see if only 2 games are able to make the system sell (hint: they won't).

The 360 may have been on supply constraints but I highly doubt those "constraints" lasted one whole year (the system finally started to pick up with Gears of Wars), same with the PS3 (the one that help the system was MGS4).

Like I already said, if Mario Kart nor 3D Mario don't help the system then we will know for sure the system will share the same faith as the N64 and GC, that won't happen imo because those games are very popular (I start to sound like a broke record here).

Also no way the system will sell less than 4m during it's first year (unless Nintendo is stupid enough to not release their big guns this year).

 

At the end of this month it will already be in two quarters. Those 2 quarters are bigger than the next two quarters. Nintendo is struggling with shipping one million this quarter. Sell through will be less than 3 million at the end of the quarter. You are telling me you think nintendo will sell over 1.4 more million in the slowest time of the year? Which averages 55k a week when it gets 55k in 4 weeks in US?

I'm counting the holiday season, when the system will most likely have tons of games (plus some big guns). 



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Max King of the Wild on 17 March 2013
osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
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You do realize that almost all consoles (PS3, Vita, 360, 3DS) underpreforms their first year? So your logic applies to pretty much every single console in history. When I think about it the only exceptions where companies didn't lowered their estimates during their first year were the PS2 and the Wii.

@bold: Would you please link to poster actually saying the Wii U will sell the same numbers as the Wii? Every since the Wii U announcement I have only seen like 2 or 3 poster saying that the system will sell the same. Every sane person here (including Nintendo fans) know the system will never touch Wii numbers (unless a miracle happens).

Also you haven't respond the question as to why MK 7 and Mario 3D Land sold so well (and are still selling).

I said it won't even come close to the Wii's sales. I didn't say people were claiming it would match Wii's sales. But people have said (less so now with reality sinking in) that the Wii U will sell well being close to matching the Wii's sales. I don't think I need to trudge through last years threads to find any.

Also, yeah... Ps3 and 360 sold about 5million their first year on the market. I was really being generous saying under 5mil for the Wii U... more likely than not it will be closer to 3.8mil. I just wanted to leave some breathing room for myself. I never said my logic didn't apply to those systems but it doesn't mean the Wii U is fine right now. And the Wii U is not suffering from either of the problems the 360 and Ps3 suffered from. High price, Japan not wanting 360, and supply constrained

 

Like I mentioned before all consoles suffer from 1 big thing: no games. Keep in mind the Wii U already has the record of longest time without a new game release (finally Lego and Monster Hunter will launch this week), so obviously the system will have a heavy drop, we will see if only 2 games are able to make the system sell (hint: they won't).

The 360 may have been on supply constraints but I highly doubt those "constraints" lasted one whole year (the system finally started to pick up with Gears of Wars), same with the PS3 (the one that help the system was MGS4).

Like I already said, if Mario Kart nor 3D Mario don't help the system then we will know for sure the system will share the same faith as the N64 and GC, that won't happen imo because those games are very popular (I start to sound like a broke record here).

Also no way the system will sell less than 4m during it's first year (unless Nintendo is stupid enough to not release their big guns this year).

 

At the end of this month it will already be in two quarters. Those 2 quarters are bigger than the next two quarters. Nintendo is struggling with shipping one million this quarter. Sell through will be less than 3 million at the end of the quarter. You are telling me you think nintendo will sell over 1.4 more million in the slowest time of the year? Which averages 55k a week when it gets 55k in 4 weeks in US?

I'm counting the holiday season, when the system will most likely have tons of games (plus some big guns). 

So, it's second holiday season which would mean it would be out for over a year. I think sales will increase then too as I said previously in this thread. Probably not as much as people will want it to though.



ninjablade on 17 March 2013
osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
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And the Wii U sold more units in 4 months than the PS3 and the 360 (the PS3 not so much here because the numbers in the article do not include Europe sales), and the 360 didn't had supply constraint, people were on the fence because of the RROD fiasco plus not really most have games (things stared to change when Gears of Wars launched one year after the 360 launch). 

You can pretty much summarize consoles launch like this: 

360 - RROD and no games

PS3 - $599 and no games

3DS - "too expensive" and no games

Vita - same as 3DS

Wii U - no marketing and no games 

The pattern is pretty obvious, consoles (yes I'm including the 3DS and Vita here) sell because of games, if there are non, then people will simple aren't going to buy it. 

And about the Wii U momentum, how can we really measure that when there are simple no games since launch? This week Lego and Monster Hunter will launch so we will see if those 2 games help the hardware sales (hint: not by much). Now, if 3D Mario nor Mario Kart (plus other 1st party games) don't do any significant in terms of sales then we will know for sure the Wii U will share the same faith as the N64 and GC. Will that happen? imo no, why? because those franchises are very popular (the 3DS game sales reflect that). I could be wrong though, but as of right now, unless you are speculating you CAN'T be sure that a Mario Kart or 3D Mario won't make the system sell.



First of all, and I already pointed this out, VGC has Wii U overtracked MAJORLY. VGC overtracked Wii U in US alone by 200k units in Dec. Wii U hasn't sold through 2.6mil yet. They MIGHT reach that number at the end of March.

Lastly, you are flat out wroing about the launches.

 

According to NPD 2013 the Wii U is undertracked by 28,217 units (not by much but it's something), can't remember the January NPD sales but those were very similar to VGC (correct me if I'm wrong here), so the numbers are probably close to each other.

Also, why I'm wrong on those launches? those were the reasons those systems had slow sales at the beginning, you can add supply constraints if you want (although I would want to see a source about this) but those never were more than a few of months. 

 

ok the 360 was supply contrained for 4-5 months, that lead it lose at least 1 million in sales, in april 06 microsft resolved the issue and 360 out sold ps2, it sold 295,000 units in april http://www.gamespot.com/news/npd-aprils-sweet-16-gives-temporary-reprieve-6151342? the 360 after april it was selling over 200,000 almost every month.



osed125 on 17 March 2013
ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
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And the Wii U sold more units in 4 months than the PS3 and the 360 (the PS3 not so much here because the numbers in the article do not include Europe sales), and the 360 didn't had supply constraint, people were on the fence because of the RROD fiasco plus not really most have games (things stared to change when Gears of Wars launched one year after the 360 launch). 

You can pretty much summarize consoles launch like this: 

360 - RROD and no games

PS3 - $599 and no games

3DS - "too expensive" and no games

Vita - same as 3DS

Wii U - no marketing and no games 

The pattern is pretty obvious, consoles (yes I'm including the 3DS and Vita here) sell because of games, if there are non, then people will simple aren't going to buy it. 

And about the Wii U momentum, how can we really measure that when there are simple no games since launch? This week Lego and Monster Hunter will launch so we will see if those 2 games help the hardware sales (hint: not by much). Now, if 3D Mario nor Mario Kart (plus other 1st party games) don't do any significant in terms of sales then we will know for sure the Wii U will share the same faith as the N64 and GC. Will that happen? imo no, why? because those franchises are very popular (the 3DS game sales reflect that). I could be wrong though, but as of right now, unless you are speculating you CAN'T be sure that a Mario Kart or 3D Mario won't make the system sell.



First of all, and I already pointed this out, VGC has Wii U overtracked MAJORLY. VGC overtracked Wii U in US alone by 200k units in Dec. Wii U hasn't sold through 2.6mil yet. They MIGHT reach that number at the end of March.

Lastly, you are flat out wroing about the launches.

 

According to NPD 2013 the Wii U is undertracked by 28,217 units (not by much but it's something), can't remember the January NPD sales but those were very similar to VGC (correct me if I'm wrong here), so the numbers are probably close to each other.

Also, why I'm wrong on those launches? those were the reasons those systems had slow sales at the beginning, you can add supply constraints if you want (although I would want to see a source about this) but those never were more than a few of months. 

 

ok the 360 was supply contrained for 4-5 months, that lead it lose at least 1 million in sales, in april 06 microsft resolved the issue and 360 out sold ps2, it sold 295,000 units in april http://www.gamespot.com/news/npd-aprils-sweet-16-gives-temporary-reprieve-6151342? the 360 after april it was selling over 200,000 almost every month.

 

Ok the 360 had supply constraint up until April 2006, and according to VGC the numbers didn't changed that much. On April the system sold an average of 130k units each week, and after that the system start selling a average of 75k-80k each week (with some weeks selling 60k or below) until November when Gears came out. So this supply constraints only help during one month and after that the sales start decreasing.

Also during this constraint period the system sold almost the exact same amounts after the constraints ended (excluding April), they were probably around the 70k mark (with some weeks over 85k), so the situation didn't changed that much, at least not on a big scale. All number are taken from VGC.



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ninjablade on 17 March 2013
osed125 said:
ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
osed125 said:
ninjablade said:
osed125 said:
.

 

 

And the Wii U sold more units in 4 months than the PS3 and the 360 (the PS3 not so much here because the numbers in the article do not include Europe sales), and the 360 didn't had supply constraint, people were on the fence because of the RROD fiasco plus not really most have games (things stared to change when Gears of Wars launched one year after the 360 launch). 

You can pretty much summarize consoles launch like this: 

360 - RROD and no games

PS3 - $599 and no games

3DS - "too expensive" and no games

Vita - same as 3DS

Wii U - no marketing and no games 

The pattern is pretty obvious, consoles (yes I'm including the 3DS and Vita here) sell because of games, if there are non, then people will simple aren't going to buy it. 

And about the Wii U momentum, how can we really measure that when there are simple no games since launch? This week Lego and Monster Hunter will launch so we will see if those 2 games help the hardware sales (hint: not by much). Now, if 3D Mario nor Mario Kart (plus other 1st party games) don't do any significant in terms of sales then we will know for sure the Wii U will share the same faith as the N64 and GC. Will that happen? imo no, why? because those franchises are very popular (the 3DS game sales reflect that). I could be wrong though, but as of right now, unless you are speculating you CAN'T be sure that a Mario Kart or 3D Mario won't make the system sell.



First of all, and I already pointed this out, VGC has Wii U overtracked MAJORLY. VGC overtracked Wii U in US alone by 200k units in Dec. Wii U hasn't sold through 2.6mil yet. They MIGHT reach that number at the end of March.

Lastly, you are flat out wroing about the launches.

 

According to NPD 2013 the Wii U is undertracked by 28,217 units (not by much but it's something), can't remember the January NPD sales but those were very similar to VGC (correct me if I'm wrong here), so the numbers are probably close to each other.

Also, why I'm wrong on those launches? those were the reasons those systems had slow sales at the beginning, you can add supply constraints if you want (although I would want to see a source about this) but those never were more than a few of months. 

 

ok the 360 was supply contrained for 4-5 months, that lead it lose at least 1 million in sales, in april 06 microsft resolved the issue and 360 out sold ps2, it sold 295,000 units in april http://www.gamespot.com/news/npd-aprils-sweet-16-gives-temporary-reprieve-6151342? the 360 after april it was selling over 200,000 almost every month.

 

Ok the 360 had supply constraint up until April 2006, and according to VGC the numbers didn't changed that much. On April the system sold an average of 130k units each week, and after that the system start selling a average of 75k-80k each week (with some weeks selling 60k or below) until November when Gears came out. So this supply constraints only help during one month and after that the sales start decreasing.

Also during this constraint period the system sold almost the exact same amounts after the constraints ended (excluding April), they were probably around the 70k mark (with some weeks over 85k), so the situation didn't changed that much, at least not on a big scale. All number are taken from VGC.

lol i'm using offical numbers from npd, of course number didn't change the much in npd, it already missed november and december, the best months of the season because of being supply constrained but it did start selling over 200,000 units a month on npd sometime selling nearly 300,000, now compare to the wiiu which is not even selling those number WW a month, 360 was selling ar a healthy level, and 2006 through 2012 when it wasn't supply constrained it sold great during ther holidays, can you say the samething for wiiu.