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Panama said:
I think my only concern with W8 phones is that I don't see it converting many people over if they've exclusively been using iOS or Android for years now. The OS itself is fantastic, but it just needs more app support as it's got the hardware to back itself via the 920.


Agreed. People in general tend to stick with what they know, especially if they have no reason to change. And with Android and ios both delivering solid performance and quality most people have no reason to switch. One of those 2 is going to need to screw up for MS to gain any real ground. It's MS own fault, though. They took way too long to enter the mobile market.



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kowenicki said:
disolitude said:
I agree with some stuff and disagree with other stuff but overall the review is great.

I will say that I believe that Lumia 920 is a better choice due to genuinely useful exclusive apps, and deals Nokia users get (like getting Sonic CD and Super Monkey ball free for a week)

Also Nokia is better for timely software updates, camera, 32 GB of default storage... But aesthetically I find HTC 8X better.


you go the 920 too?

whats this about Sonic?

Yeah I've had 920 for 3 months now. Very happy with it...

Like Panama said, non Xbox Sonic CD was given to Nokia users for free for a week. 



Pretty good write up.

I'd be curious to see it compare to the new HTC One or SammyS4 or even my GNex. You'd obviously win on battery life, but with Chrome on these phones for browsing and a few other things matching up... I'd be curious to your opinion between them.



superchunk said:
Pretty good write up.

I'd be curious to see it compare to the new HTC One or SammyS4 or even my GNex. You'd obviously win on battery life, but with Chrome on these phones for browsing and a few other things matching up... I'd be curious to your opinion between them.

I doubt an 1800 mah battery in HTC 8x could compete with S4's 2600 mah despite the processor/OS being less battery efficient. 

All other comparisons I see being fairly close. Web page loading performance and stuff like that is getting to a point with these dual core/quad core processors and LTE where it really can't get much faster no matter whats running under the hood.



superchunk said:
Pretty good write up.

I'd be curious to see it compare to the new HTC One or SammyS4 or even my GNex. You'd obviously win on battery life, but with Chrome on these phones for browsing and a few other things matching up... I'd be curious to your opinion between them.


Well, from a specifications perspective no WP8 will match up with the Galaxy S4 because by the time it releases these phones will all be 6 months old which is a fairly long time in the mobile market. The WP9's when they release in the fall may be a different story. As far as actual performance goes, though, I don't know how you can really improve on nearly instant web page loading and perfectly smooth OS navigation. The only thing an 8 core processor is going to do for you at this point is eat up your battery faster which is why Samsung had to include a 2600 mAh battery in the S4. I don't think there are even any apps on Android, games included, that will utilize an 8 core processor. When designing games and apps for these phones you have to design them with the knowledge that many people who install them will be doing so on 1, 2 or even 3 year old phones so you simply cannot optimize the software for an 8 core monstrosity of a smartphone. I guess if you like having 10 apps running at once then the S4 will be useful to you, but other than that I don't see how it's going to show much of a performance improvement over any other high end device. Time will tell though. I hope it's as impressive as Samsung is making it out to be.

As far as mobile browsing on Chrome is concerned I'll gladly test it against the WP8 the first time I come across someone using it on the same network as me. I'm fairly certain my brother in law uses it on his S3 and I'm pretty sure he's on an LTE network as well so I'll test it with him asap.



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I have an 8x and it's absolute garbage. But I think it's just a lemon. people can't hear me, texts are delayed, touchscreen non-responsive, battery abruptly dies sometimes. I hate the phone. It was my second HTC Windows phone. I'm going to get an Xperia Z if it comes to Canada soon or something else if it doesn't.



Funtime said:
superchunk said:
Pretty good write up.

I'd be curious to see it compare to the new HTC One or SammyS4 or even my GNex. You'd obviously win on battery life, but with Chrome on these phones for browsing and a few other things matching up... I'd be curious to your opinion between them.


Well, from a specifications perspective no WP8 will match up with the Galaxy S4 because by the time it releases these phones will all be 6 months old which is a fairly long time in the mobile market. The WP9's when they release in the fall may be a different story. As far as actual performance goes, though, I don't know how you can really improve on nearly instant web page loading and perfectly smooth OS navigation. The only thing an 8 core processor is going to do for you at this point is eat up your battery faster which is why Samsung had to include a 2600 mAh battery in the S4. I don't think there are even any apps on Android, games included, that will utilize an 8 core processor. When designing games and apps for these phones you have to design them with the knowledge that many people who install them will be doing so on 1, 2 or even 3 year old phones so you simply cannot optimize the software for an 8 core monstrosity of a smartphone. I guess if you like having 10 apps running at once then the S4 will be useful to you, but other than that I don't see how it's going to show much of a performance improvement over any other high end device. Time will tell though. I hope it's as impressive as Samsung is making it out to be.

As far as mobile browsing on Chrome is concerned I'll gladly test it against the WP8 the first time I come across someone using it on the same network as me. I'm fairly certain my brother in law uses it on his S3 and I'm pretty sure he's on an LTE network as well so I'll test it with him asap.

Yea the 8 core processor seems like overkill. I guess if you want a windows phone then the Lumia 920 is your best option. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

TheLastStarFighter said:
I have an 8x and it's absolute garbage. But I think it's just a lemon. people can't hear me, texts are delayed, touchscreen non-responsive, battery abruptly dies sometimes. I hate the phone. It was my second HTC Windows phone. I'm going to get an Xperia Z if it comes to Canada soon or something else if it doesn't.


You should call your service provider and have it replaced. There's no reason it should be acting up like that. They'll probably just give you a new one, but at worst they will send you a temporary replacement while they send yours off to be fixed.



Funtime said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
I have an 8x and it's absolute garbage. But I think it's just a lemon. people can't hear me, texts are delayed, touchscreen non-responsive, battery abruptly dies sometimes. I hate the phone. It was my second HTC Windows phone. I'm going to get an Xperia Z if it comes to Canada soon or something else if it doesn't.


You should call your service provider and have it replaced. There's no reason it should be acting up like that. They'll probably just give you a new one, but at worst they will send you a temporary replacement while they send yours off to be fixed.

It's a corporate phone.  They will provide me with a new phone when I let them know, as they won't want to risk losing the account... I'm just not going to go with another HTC.  Our provider doesn't offer the Nokia.  My last HTC was good except for a poor battery over time, but overall my experience with build quality has been sub-par.  I do like the OS OK though, I will say that much.  And the phone seemed really cool at first and - this is funny - I've had more random girls say how cool my phone is when I'm out for drinks with both my old black HTC and my new blue 8X.  It's one of the pretiest phones.  But I need my phone to be reliable more than anything, and so HTC has not offered me good enough quality on that front.

I'm just waiting to see if the Xperia Z is going to be offered.  the ZL comes out next month, but I would rather the Z.  If it's not coming, I may look at the Blackberry Z10.



kowenicki said:
superchunk said:
Pretty good write up.

I'd be curious to see it compare to the new HTC One or SammyS4 or even my GNex. You'd obviously win on battery life, but with Chrome on these phones for browsing and a few other things matching up... I'd be curious to your opinion between them.

why is chrome relevant?


If you haven't used Chrome on Android vs the stock browser or really anything else available, then I can't really explain it to you. Basically I can't wait for Chrome to be Androids default browser. Its a million times better. Pretty much deskOS experience on a phone.