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ninjablade on 14 March 2013
thismeintiel said:
ironmanDX said:
007BondAgent said:
ninjablade said:

i'm buying a ps4 nextgen but  microsoft could win nextgen, they have the us market on lock and they sell good in europe, if there system is cheaper by 100$, it will destroy ps4 sales in the states, now euro will still remain like this gen.


sony has eu locked, and japan, sorry but microsoft will never win relying on just america


How is EU locked? 2 gens ago you could have said they had the world locked. Japan is more Nintendo but Sony has a strong place there too.

 

Xbox has a minimal chance to get big there.

Just look at the numbers.  The PS3 launched in EU 1 1/2 years after the 360, and at a much higher price, yet the PS3 is 5.7M+ ahead of it now.  And that gap is only going to continue to grow.  Probably end up being 8M-10M.  Now, what will happen there if the PS4 and NeXbox launch around the same time for almost the same price? 

Japan is more Nintendo?  Maybe for handhelds.  However, the PS1 and PS2 did much better there than the N64 and Gamecube.  Sony may claim 1st there again, especially with how poorly the Wii U is selling there, currently.

your forgetting one very important detail, when 7th gen started, the xbox brand was a joke, now its huge, this will make a huge differnce.



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007BondAgent on 14 March 2013
ninjablade said:
007BondAgent said:
ninjablade said:
thismeintiel said:
007BondAgent said:
ninjablade said:

i'm buying a ps4 nextgen but  microsoft could win nextgen, they have the us market on lock and they sell good in europe, if there system is cheaper by 100$, it will destroy ps4 sales in the states, now euro will still remain like this gen.


sony has eu locked, and japan, sorry but microsoft will never win relying on just america

Plus, no one has Americ on lock.  We are an unpredictable bunch.   

EU is pretty much locked in for Sony.  Japan will support both Sony and Nintendo, but not sure which will come out on top.  America could go any way.  However, MS is a HUGE disadvantage WW, since both consoles are releasing at the same time and around the same price.  Basically, as long as Sony doesn't fuck up in a big way, and the Wii U doesn't start selling like the Wii in its early years, Sony seems to be in a very good spot to reclaim 1st.

 

 

microsoft has the us on lock now, just like sony did with playstation but they made huge mistakes with ps3, multiplatform games look much better on 360 for 3 years, it was 200$ cheaper and the controller is so much better, playstation fans switched over.


Yeah keep thinking that


well  trust me when i tell you, its a major reason why people prefer 360 to playsation3, ia sked many people i know, what do you think about ps3, first they tell me they hate the controller, compared to 360, especially true for shooters.

so your friends = america?

kinect is the main reason for the 360's success



ninjablade on 14 March 2013
thismeintiel said:
ninjablade said:
thismeintiel said:

Plus, no one has Americ on lock.  We are an unpredictable bunch.   

EU is pretty much locked in for Sony.  Japan will support both Sony and Nintendo, but not sure which will come out on top.  America could go any way.  However, MS is a HUGE disadvantage WW, since both consoles are releasing at the same time and around the same price.  Basically, as long as Sony doesn't fuck up in a big way, and the Wii U doesn't start selling like the Wii in its early years, Sony seems to be in a very good spot to reclaim 1st.

 

 

microsoft has the us on lock now, just like sony did with playstation but they made huge mistakes with ps3, multiplatform games look much better on 360 for 3 years, it was 200$ cheaper and the controller is so much better, playstation fans switched over, they both had the same games barring a exclusives.

Yes, some people switched over for this gen, but MS hardly has the US on lock.  The US is the least predictable in how they will go with console purchases.  They have always changed around the most.  Japan is always Nintendo/Sony.  Ever since the PS debuted, EU has been Sony.  In fact, the PS3 is going claim #1 there again before all is said in done.  The US is anyone's game.  Sony could actually win quite a few people back.  MS sure aren't going to have the advantage of price and timing like this gen.

microsoft has a huge advantage in the us, bigger then sony has in europe, i think its gonna very close, people in the us a very loyal to xbox cause of xbox live, COD,  thecontroller and halo, they will have to make a huge blunder like sony did to lose those fans.



thismeintiel on 14 March 2013
ironmanDX said:
thismeintiel said:
 

Just look at the numbers.  The PS3 launched in EU 1 1/2 years after the 360, and at a much higher price, yet the PS3 is 5.7M+ ahead of it now.  And that gap is only going to continue to grow.  Probably end up being 8M-10M.  Now, what will happen there if the PS4 and NeXbox launch around the same time for almost the same price? 

Japan is more Nintendo?  Maybe for handhelds.  However, the PS1 and PS2 did much better there than the N64 and Gamecube.  Sony may claim 1st there again, especially with how poorly the Wii U is selling there, currently.

Did you look at the numbers? The gen is nearly over and it's got a 5.7 million console gap now only months before the 720 and ps4 release. That will slow the sales, not make them explode. 7-8 million tops, 10 million? Nearly double the gap?

 

You're dreaming.

The gap is going to be ~7M at the end of this year.  So, 10M is doable, as Sony will be pushing the PS3 there, as an affordable upgarde in the parts the PS2 were still selling.  The 360 won't stay on shelves as quite as long, as well.



 

Soundwave on 14 March 2013

I think they are getting over confident. The Vita is still a disaster (yes, tracking under the Dreamcast a year after launch qualifies as a disaster) and Microsoft is no.1 in North America by a long shot and made big inroads into Europe this generation. If MS decides to start money hatting franchises or there's fire behind the smoke of those EA rumors, Sony could be in trouble real quick.



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ninjablade on 14 March 2013
007BondAgent said:
ninjablade said:
007BondAgent said:
ninjablade said:
thismeintiel said:
007BondAgent said:
ninjablade said:

i'm buying a ps4 nextgen but  microsoft could win nextgen, they have the us market on lock and they sell good in europe, if there system is cheaper by 100$, it will destroy ps4 sales in the states, now euro will still remain like this gen.


sony has eu locked, and japan, sorry but microsoft will never win relying on just america

Plus, no one has Americ on lock.  We are an unpredictable bunch.   

EU is pretty much locked in for Sony.  Japan will support both Sony and Nintendo, but not sure which will come out on top.  America could go any way.  However, MS is a HUGE disadvantage WW, since both consoles are releasing at the same time and around the same price.  Basically, as long as Sony doesn't fuck up in a big way, and the Wii U doesn't start selling like the Wii in its early years, Sony seems to be in a very good spot to reclaim 1st.

 

 

microsoft has the us on lock now, just like sony did with playstation but they made huge mistakes with ps3, multiplatform games look much better on 360 for 3 years, it was 200$ cheaper and the controller is so much better, playstation fans switched over.


Yeah keep thinking that


well  trust me when i tell you, its a major reason why people prefer 360 to playsation3, ia sked many people i know, what do you think about ps3, first they tell me they hate the controller, compared to 360, especially true for shooters.

so your friends = america?

kinect is the main reason for the 360's success

kinect is not the main reason, it gave it a boost but no way is the main reason.



thismeintiel on 14 March 2013
ninjablade said:
thismeintiel said:

Just look at the numbers.  The PS3 launched in EU 1 1/2 years after the 360, and at a much higher price, yet the PS3 is 5.7M+ ahead of it now.  And that gap is only going to continue to grow.  Probably end up being 8M-10M.  Now, what will happen there if the PS4 and NeXbox launch around the same time for almost the same price? 

Japan is more Nintendo?  Maybe for handhelds.  However, the PS1 and PS2 did much better there than the N64 and Gamecube.  Sony may claim 1st there again, especially with how poorly the Wii U is selling there, currently.

your forgetting one very important detail, when 7th gen started, the xbox brand was a joke, now its huge, this will make a huge differnce.

And the Playstation brand was even larger during the PS2 days.  Your point?



 

ninjablade on 14 March 2013
thismeintiel said:
ninjablade said:
thismeintiel said:

Just look at the numbers.  The PS3 launched in EU 1 1/2 years after the 360, and at a much higher price, yet the PS3 is 5.7M+ ahead of it now.  And that gap is only going to continue to grow.  Probably end up being 8M-10M.  Now, what will happen there if the PS4 and NeXbox launch around the same time for almost the same price? 

Japan is more Nintendo?  Maybe for handhelds.  However, the PS1 and PS2 did much better there than the N64 and Gamecube.  Sony may claim 1st there again, especially with how poorly the Wii U is selling there, currently.

your forgetting one very important detail, when 7th gen started, the xbox brand was a joke, now its huge, this will make a huge differnce.

And the Playstation brand was even larger during the PS2 days.  Your point?

just imagine 360 launching at 599$, that thing would have probably sold 20 million units max, it would have been dead a long time ago, they only reason playsation 3 survived such a huge mistake was its brand name, that's my point. you swith roles, say the ps3 launched with a year head start at 299$-399$, it would have destroyed 360 at 599$, come on  dude you should be able to figure that one out.



archbrix on 14 March 2013
007BondAgent said:

... as for japan, [...] the PS4 will outperform the wiiu quite easily...

Oh, I'm holding you to this one, bud.  



walsufnir on 14 March 2013
007BondAgent said:
ninjablade said:

i'm buying a ps4 nextgen but  microsoft could win nextgen, they have the us market on lock and they sell good in europe, if there system is cheaper by 100$, it will destroy ps4 sales in the states, now euro will still remain like this gen.


sony has eu locked, and japan, sorry but microsoft will never win relying on just america


I have to ask again: What is the benefit for gamers if anyone wins? The Wii definitely won this gen but to me there were no interesting games. What does it help if one company wins? Nothing (except that they earn more money perhaps). 3rd-Party-support will be mostly equal on both next-gen-consoles and competition will push  both to satisfy gamers. Do you want Sony to dominate? If yes, why?

I mean really, it is all about having fun with your console and of course getting new games that keep pushing the console's limits and to bring us games that are fun to play. Where does all this "but I want my favourite brand to win" fit in there?