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Barozi on 12 March 2013
pezus said:
kowenicki said:

I did mean the PS3... this is Spain.  Spain is the biggest Sony stronghold on the planet, literally.

...and yeah Spain its a small market.  Also Germany isnt that big  console market, its quite a bit smaller than France and half the size of the UK (both of which have around 25% smaller populations).

Of the markets we see reports about, yes. There are numerous smaller markets where PS dominates similarly. 

Germany is smaller than France? Hmm I always thought it was slightly bigger.

The console market in Germany is smaller than the one in France. He is talking about the console market.

Overall Germany is a bigger gaming market than France.



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ruimartiniman on 12 March 2013
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
Netyaroze said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:
pezus said:
Not much decline at all then in one of Europe's biggest markets. Further evidence for 2012 sales in Europe for PS3/360 being undertracked.

Also, holy shit at the amount of PC games sold! Does this include digital? I assume it does

And wow @Spain! PS3 with 43% of the *total* market. Crazy. Wii also above 360 hmm?


I thought it would be higher...

tiny market though isnt it...

That's over triple 360 and 2.4X Wii. 

57% of current gen consoles vs. 19% (360) and 24% Wii. Domination in the truest sense.

What were you expecting, 70%?

I think he is refering to the size of the market. 


I think not (when he says "I thought it would be higher")

I wouldn't call the market tiny with 800m vs. 1.8B in Germany. Germany is a big market, so I'd call Spain a medium sized market.

I did mean the PS3... this is Spain.  Spain is the biggest Sony stronghold on the planet, literally.

...and yeah Spain its a small market.  Also Germany isnt that big  console market, its quite a bit smaller than France and half the size of the UK (both of which have around 25% smaller populations).

Of the markets we see reports about, yes. There are numerous smaller markets where PS dominates similarly. 

Germany is smaller than France? Hmm I always thought it was slightly bigger.

Total sales hardware +software 

UK  2.059 million euros (-22%)

Germany  1957 (-9,2%)

France 1728 (-14,7%)

Spain 725 (-16,9)



ruimartiniman on 12 March 2013
Barozi said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:

I did mean the PS3... this is Spain.  Spain is the biggest Sony stronghold on the planet, literally.

...and yeah Spain its a small market.  Also Germany isnt that big  console market, its quite a bit smaller than France and half the size of the UK (both of which have around 25% smaller populations).

Of the markets we see reports about, yes. There are numerous smaller markets where PS dominates similarly. 

Germany is smaller than France? Hmm I always thought it was slightly bigger.

The console market in Germany is smaller than the one in France. He is talking about the console market.

Overall Germany is a bigger gaming market than France.

Total sales hardware(consoles) +software 

UK  2.059 million euros (-22%)

Germany  1957 (-9,2%)

France 1728 (-14,7%)

Spain 725 (-16,9)



Barozi on 12 March 2013
ruimartiniman said:
Barozi said:

The console market in Germany is smaller than the one in France. He is talking about the console market.

Overall Germany is a bigger gaming market than France.

 

Total sales hardware(consoles) +software 

UK  2.059 million euros (-22%)

Germany  1957 (-9,2%)

France 1728 (-14,7%)

Spain 725 (-16,9)

 

Where did you get that from ? GFK ?



ruimartiniman on 12 March 2013
Barozi said:
ruimartiniman said:
Barozi said:

The console market in Germany is smaller than the one in France. He is talking about the console market.

Overall Germany is a bigger gaming market than France.

 

Total sales hardware(consoles) +software 

UK  2.059 million euros (-22%)

Germany  1957 (-9,2%)

France 1728 (-14,7%)

Spain 725 (-16,9)

 

Where did you get that from ? GFK ?

Yes.

http://www.adese.es/images/pdf/balanceok2013.pdf



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crissindahouse on 12 March 2013
ruimartiniman said:

Yes.

http://www.adese.es/images/pdf/balanceok2013.pdf

your pc gaming  market is so small (probably still some players because of pirating like in every other country as well but still)



crissindahouse on 12 March 2013
Player2 said:

Where are those HD owners that buy mature games? Only 15% of the Top 20 best selling games in Spain (AKA Sonyland) were 18+.

i blame football



ruimartiniman on 12 March 2013
crissindahouse said:
ruimartiniman said:

Yes.

http://www.adese.es/images/pdf/balanceok2013.pdf

your pc gaming  market is so small (probably still some players because of pirating like in every other country as well but still)


Actually i´m portuguese, not spanish, but that´s ok.

Yeah, console software represents  93% and PC only 7%. Piracy rules both in Portugal in Spain, downloading PC games from internet is seen as morally acceptable.



crissindahouse on 12 March 2013

ruimartiniman said:

Actually i´m portuguese, not spanish, but that´s ok.

Yeah, console software represents  93% and PC only 7%. Piracy rules both in Portugal in Spain, downloading PC games from internet is seen as morally acceptable.

ohh ok sry! at least it's a part of the iberian peninsula

i think pirating is huge even in very rich countries like norway but yeah, probably bigger in countries where people have a smaller average income.



Barozi on 12 March 2013

I also ask in here.

Isn't the market share (in units)
PS3 - 31%
Wii - 16%
Xbox 360 - 11%
according to this: http://www.adese.es/images/pdf/balanceok2013.pdf

instead of PS3-43% ; Wii-18% ; Xbox360-14% as that other article states ?
Even if it was value it wouldn't be correct.