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well the not liking kratos because he's angry, and then still not liking him when he's not angry makes perfect sense.

It means they don't like kratos, and I haven't really liked him since the first one, though I thought 2 was great, and 3 was pretty good. And the PSP ones were okay.



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Soleron said:

A game feeling less epic can't be justified with "it's a prequel", if epicness is a key feature of GoW's appeal. Maybe they made the wrong game!

If I can relate, making Other M about Samus' vulnerability and subservience 'because it's a prequel' was still the wrong choice.

That's the thing though Soleron, they actually made it more epic.  The "Titan gameplay" has way more scale in this game.  I mean what they did in the beginning of the game makes the Chronus' boss fight look like some non-epic fight (Can't think of a better way to put it).



darkknightkryta said:
Soleron said:

A game feeling less epic can't be justified with "it's a prequel", if epicness is a key feature of GoW's appeal. Maybe they made the wrong game!

If I can relate, making Other M about Samus' vulnerability and subservience 'because it's a prequel' was still the wrong choice.

That's the thing though Soleron, they actually made it more epic.  The "Titan gameplay" has way more scale in this game.  I mean what they did in the beginning of the game makes the Chronus' boss fight look like some non-epic fight (Can't think of a better way to put it).

Its not entirely the scale and the technical aspect of it (Not to say thats not remarkable).

The epicness was the fact of where the story was going. You had freaking traveled in time to get the Titans with you to climb Mount Olympus ontop of Gaia in order to fight a war against the gods of olympus.

Shit doesnt get more epic than that!

 

Now if they want to throw Kratos in a prison and have it be ontop of a Titan thats even larger: Sure. But it doesnt hold the same value. Especially with how GoW2 ended, setting up GoW3 with hype that lasted 5 years!

 

EDIT: also supposedly: Ascension doesnt have as many moments as previous GoW games. Most of it seems to be killing beasts and not bosses. Unlike GoW3 which nearly had every moment be a workup for the next boss. GoW3 was to me atleast, all about the bosses and getting through all one by one until you hit Zeus. Here.. I dont even know what I am supposed to do as Kratos so we'll see when I get the game. But surely you can understand what I mean.



Aldro said:
darkknightkryta said:
Soleron said:

A game feeling less epic can't be justified with "it's a prequel", if epicness is a key feature of GoW's appeal. Maybe they made the wrong game!

If I can relate, making Other M about Samus' vulnerability and subservience 'because it's a prequel' was still the wrong choice.

That's the thing though Soleron, they actually made it more epic.  The "Titan gameplay" has way more scale in this game.  I mean what they did in the beginning of the game makes the Chronus' boss fight look like some non-epic fight (Can't think of a better way to put it).

Its not entirely the scale and the technical aspect of it (Not to say thats not remarkable).

The epicness was the fact of where the story was going. You had freaking traveled in time to get the Titans with you to climb Mount Olympus ontop of Gaia in order to fight a war against the gods of olympus.

Shit doesnt get more epic than that!

 

Now if they want to throw Kratos in a prison and have it be ontop of a Titan thats even larger: Sure. But it doesnt hold the same value. Especially with how GoW2 ended, setting up GoW3 with hype that lasted 5 years!

Epic story vs epic gameplay, which are reviewers complaining about?  Literally, which one?  I'm not gonna bother reading reviews.  Cause if they're complaining about epic gameplay, which is what I gather from the review thread, then they're dead wrong.



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My problem with the scores is that they pretty much ignore multiplayer. Well we know from the beta it's pretty great so a justified score of 70 means the single player was in the 50's or 60's. No way should that make sense.



darkknightkryta said:

@Gamer_of_the_Year

I'll try not to spoil anything but the story I've seen so far is very intriguing.  More thought was put into it and I was surprised with the beginning cause I was expecting something else entirely.  The game sort of starts off with Uncharted in that it throws you in the middle of things and then goes into a flashback leading up to current events... at least I think anyways, I'm not going to really play much more until I finish Tomb Raider.

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I know I'll get slammed for liking Lair, but I haven't trusted reviewers since I read IGN's review for it and it was all lies.  You never know what kind of builds reviewers are given.  Plus it's gotten worse since.  Reviewers have this elitism now where if they can't get some instant gratification it'll get slammed, plus the way they've screwed up with reviewing games early on really hurt them now since anything lower than a 9 sucks according to them.  Publishers buying reviews is becoming a huge problem too which is making things worse.  There's no credibility in gaming journalism anymore.  I used to go to IGN to read their reviews because they used to break the game into categories and go into great depth with each, sometimes I'd be reading a 4/5 page review because of the depth.  Now it's all 1 page garbage written by people who have no more writing experience higher than elementary school.  To sum up about God of War though;  Is it getting a bit stale?  Yes I think it is, and this should be the last game that's made classically.  Do I think it's worth less than a 9 yet?  God no.


The "in medias res" plot line is very intriguing indeed. I was wondering how in the world the game would OPEN epic considering Kratos and his wife would still be together. That makes perfect since actually. Only logical way to pull it off (unless they, which I assumed they would do, started us off the middle of an epic battle when Kratos was a General ala "Heavenly Sword" which I loved it's intro too). 

I just can't understand how humanizing Kratos, showing him being a family man and caring husband and father then showing his wife and child brutally murdered (by HIM because he was set up to do so) cannot be riveting? I mean Sony Santa Monica would have to REAAAAAALLLLLLY get lazy to screw that up and not make it compelling. 



darkknightkryta said:

@Gamer_of_the_Year

I'll try not to spoil anything but the story I've seen so far is very intriguing.  More thought was put into it and I was surprised with the beginning cause I was expecting something else entirely.  The game sort of starts off with Uncharted in that it throws you in the middle of things and then goes into a flashback leading up to current events... at least I think anyways, I'm not going to really play much more until I finish Tomb Raider.

@Heavenly_King

I know I'll get slammed for liking Lair, but I haven't trusted reviewers since I read IGN's review for it and it was all lies.  You never know what kind of builds reviewers are given.  Plus it's gotten worse since.  Reviewers have this elitism now where if they can't get some instant gratification it'll get slammed, plus the way they've screwed up with reviewing games early on really hurt them now since anything lower than a 9 sucks according to them.  Publishers buying reviews is becoming a huge problem too which is making things worse.  There's no credibility in gaming journalism anymore.  I used to go to IGN to read their reviews because they used to break the game into categories and go into great depth with each, sometimes I'd be reading a 4/5 page review because of the depth.  Now it's all 1 page garbage written by people who have no more writing experience higher than elementary school.  To sum up about God of War though;  Is it getting a bit stale?  Yes I think it is, and this should be the last game that's made classically.  Do I think it's worth less than a 9 yet?  God no.

Well if Adam Sessler's review is anything to go by these criticisms are irrelevant and/or strange.  He insults a trophy name and says its offensive because you bash a Fury's face in making it about her being a woman getting her face kicked in which is just ridiculous (I like Sess but that was way too pc for me).  I don't mind if a SP game just gives me a new adventure with the same basic gameplay.  It is a nice bonus if a sequel introduces some radical change and pulls it off, but I look to new IP for new gameplay.  I look to sequels for refinement.  New bosses, weapons, conflicts, powers, and story is enough for me in a franchise like this.  Maybe my standards are low but that's all I want and all I ever expected from it.




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I'm just having a hard time stomaching complaints about the franchise getting tired from these critics when Ascension is adding so much in terms of new content and gameplay. While other games whose names shall not be mentioned get a free pass.



darkknightkryta said:

@Gamer_of_the_Year

I'll try not to spoil anything but the story I've seen so far is very intriguing.  More thought was put into it and I was surprised with the beginning cause I was expecting something else entirely.  The game sort of starts off with Uncharted in that it throws you in the middle of things and then goes into a flashback leading up to current events... at least I think anyways, I'm not going to really play much more until I finish Tomb Raider.

@Heavenly_King

I know I'll get slammed for liking Lair, but I haven't trusted reviewers since I read IGN's review for it and it was all lies.  You never know what kind of builds reviewers are given.  Plus it's gotten worse since.  Reviewers have this elitism now where if they can't get some instant gratification it'll get slammed, plus the way they've screwed up with reviewing games early on really hurt them now since anything lower than a 9 sucks according to them.  Publishers buying reviews is becoming a huge problem too which is making things worse.  There's no credibility in gaming journalism anymore.  I used to go to IGN to read their reviews because they used to break the game into categories and go into great depth with each, sometimes I'd be reading a 4/5 page review because of the depth.  Now it's all 1 page garbage written by people who have no more writing experience higher than elementary school.  To sum up about God of War though;  Is it getting a bit stale?  Yes I think it is, and this should be the last game that's made classically.  Do I think it's worth less than a 9 yet?  God no.

awesome...sounds great man

fucking hell I should move to Canada! You seem to be getting all games early damn it!



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