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Forums - Sales - PS3, 360 sales: The direct results of pricecuts and remodels

binary solo said:
My question is whether remodelling by itself has much effect? I don't think so. With PS3 the price cut was the big thing. I would argue that a remodel by itself would have done almost nothing for 360 after a short effect. What "relaunched" 360 was Kinect, which I hypothesise was a substantial number of people dropping Wii and picking up 360+Kinect 4GB bundles. The Kinect launch was effectively a price cut because Kinect bundles could be had for not that much more than straight 360 before Kinect's launch.

So expensive but popular brand becomes cheaper. And cool new toy. These are the seeds of the revivial, not so much remodelling.


I don't know, I think the remodel was incredibly necessary to the long term sales possibilities of the 360, it wasnt just kinect.  The problem before the 360 remodel was that it was still dogged with hardware issues like the RROD and the incredibly loud fan.  The remodel helped the 360 move past those issues as it was made as a more reliable hardware system.  I think that had just as much of an effect as kinect did.  

Of course, normally I would agree that remodels don't have that significant of an impact if they aren't coupled with a price decrease.  The 360 is just a special case...



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Well, two things I could discuss.
1) It was said this gen that price-cuts do not boost sales. I was told this hundreds of times, mostly with an accompanying elitest attitude. The price cuts did indeed increase sales.
2) 360 is doing better because of kinect, not because of the remodel, though perhaps the remodel has a tiny bit of influence there.



I'm not surprised. I generally wait for a price cut/redesign myself. I think both are factors. When they happen together, the result is more positive than if just one occurred.

By this point, we've been pretty much trained to expect both.



happydolphin said:

Yeah, I know. I once made a huge analysis thread of past sales, I got a few interested posters which was cool, but typically discussing the past doesn't create a lot of discussion.


Good 'series' of threads.



I agree with Rol.

This is more to do with content on those systems than the overall form factor / price.

Price has always declined steadily and never produced that really late 2nd peak or curve for a system. However, this is the first time 3rd parties shoved all support to the "losing" console(s).

Had the Wii gained the 3rd party full support as had been the case with every generational leader previous, these charts would not be the same and Wii would have been toppling PS2 by the end of it all. Instead it dove off the cliff and the other two had late surges as Wii owners and late PS2 upgraders bought new consoles.



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Yeah, I agree with the software support argument. I mean redesigns and price cuts help, that is a fact, but not without significant software support.

the best example is the Wii. Price cuts did not do much at the end of the life cycle, and the latest Wii Mini was barely noticeable.

The 360 and the PS3 on the other hand had plenty of room to maneuver price wise, and they had stellar 3rd party and solid 1st party support throughout the years.



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Having said that, guys, wouldn't the sales of the PS360 simply continued on a plateau?

Instead, for instance, the PS3 grows while the 360 trends down, but both are amplified post remodel/repricing.



pezus 23 hours ago
*whispers* Bring up the WiiU and watch the thread fly!
 
Did someone mention WiiU?!?.... hmmmm.... nothing.... back to reading PS4 hype...