I never said that. I agree that we should improve it, but I don't think gimmicky features or motion controls like kinect or the wiimote "improves" hardly anything... all it does is simply change the method of input, a lot of the time simplifying and limiting gameplay possibilities to great extents. I'd rather us build on designs that work. That's not to say the experimental, "innovative" shit doesn't have its place, it does, but as peripherals and not the default input device. 

Casual Gamers outnumber Hardcore gamers.

There is no need for 1080p at 120fps.  I believe ps4 and nexbox will be able to do 1080p at 60fps.  Anything higher is not needed right now.  If they don't achieve 1080p at 60fps I will be severely disappointed because they should be able to get it for $400 considering a lot of ps3 exclusives are at 720p at 30fps.

Im keen as all F%$k for the next gen of consoles, cant wait 2 get some PS4 action!

Like i say casual gamers don't like Sony console the proof is:Singstar,buzz etc witch are casual games sold very poorly compared to other casual game in Wii or Ds,the move also sold poorly.

Loco Roco,Patapon in PSP also sold not well for casual games.

Casual gamers+Hardcore gamers > Casual gamers only .

PS2 sold 150 millions so they are at least 100 millions hardcore gamers why abondon them!!!!

You're right. I'm ready for the triple analog. 

of course that's just my ideal thing haha, as long as they can get 60fps is ok,  i've played Saints Row 3 with a GT 520 (imagine the settings for a good frame rate) and with a GTX 680, of course it's prettier but it doesn't make any difference, graphics are a plus not a need, framerate on the other hand...

Touchscreen takes your attention away from the TV....not good.
Touchpad doesn't. Think of it as another set of buttons. Swipe up to jump or something. The possibilities are endless.

iOS/Android ports. Now you can play games like Temple Run on the big screen! Ouya is already taking advantage of this, Somy knows there's a lot of potential there as well.

Ya, framerate in this gen has been horrible for many games on ps360.  That is one thing they need to focus on with the specs of the new consoles.

EspadaGrim said: thismeintiel said: Cause that touchscreen is really helping push Wii U sales, right? I agree with the Kinect point, but its not for the core gamer, it's for the casual gamer. We'll have to wait and see if it actually appeals to them, though. As for graphics, you guys keep hoping its not going to be much of a leap. Just wait and see. Especially since most games were sub-HD this gen, while most games next gen (at least from the PS4) are going to 1080P, while boasting higher poly counts and higher res textures. Dude the Kinect has already appealed to casual gamers did you even see ow much it sold?

And where was that appeal last holiday season?  Kinect's appeal, for the most part, is gone.  It's usually the same way with casual gaming, it keeps their interest for 2(Kinect)-4(Wii) years, then they start moving on to something else.  Casual gamers aren't the most reliable for SW sales, either.  So, if they are really going to call it Kinect 2, it needs to be quite an improvement over the last Kinect.  Otherwise, casual gamers are just going to say "been there, done that."