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Dude, what, it took me like 20 minutes to write that. DX



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ToraTiger said:
Dude, what, it took me like 20 minutes to write that. DX

I wish I could reply to your looong post, but I just don't have the knowledge to argue for myself :P All I can do with Islam is to re-hash old arguments. Wish I could have been more of a help ^^



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DaRev said:
Aielyn said:
DaRev said:
What contradictions are in the Bible?

On what day was light created? Now, on what day did god create sources of light?

Which was created first? Man, or animals? (look at Genesis 1 and 2)

Where in the bible is Jesus called "Emmanuel", as it was prophesised?

What were Jesus's last words on the cross before death?

Who carried Jesus's cross before he was crucified?

Where did Josiah die?

Why did god refer to Abraham's "only son Isaac", after Ishmael had already been born?

Just a few examples to think about.

 Animals.

-  Where in the bible is Jesus called "Emmanuel", as it was prophesised? Everywhere, cause Immanuel literally means "God is with us." This is significant because Jesus is God in flesh. So God aka Jesus can to Earth and was with us. So prophets were saying that God would be with us, not necessarily that his name will be Immanuel. Plus names back them mean something, not like the crap names we have today like Bob or Kate. By the way what’s your name?

 

Bob = Robert

The name Robert is a Germanic given name, from Old High German Hruodberht "bright with glory"

...just for your information

 



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- George Orwell, ‘1984’

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Cheebee said:
Fireforgey said:
Cheebee said:

These threads are getting more and more lol-worthy. xD I can't believeso many people still cling to such dark-age ideas, -just- because so many others say they're true.

I believe WiiU passed PS360 lifetime sales last week. Doesn't matter if there's no proof. I believe it's true, so it must be. I don't care if you don't agree with me, you don't share my belief so you're obviously ignorant and very wrong.


I'm not sure whether you're talking about Christianity or a belief in God in general but there is a huge discrepancy between reality and your example.

with the belief in god it is we have some proof, but it isn't enough for other people.

Then there are those that deny that God exists, have no proof that he exists, but don't have any proff that he DOESN'T exist.  When there is no proof either way then people are free to believe in what they want. 

Not christianity, but belief in a god in general. And no, we do not have 'some proof'. Some people like to think so, but if such 'proof' is in any way disputable
by science, or logic, then it's not proof. Obviously people are free to believe whatever they want. But that's all it is, belief. It's called that precisely -because- we do not have proof. Faith is called faith because there's no proof, people simply choose to believe something's true.

Do you have proof at what is at the center of the Earth and what is at the edge of our Universe? How about what our Universe is made out of, can you put it together in lab and make one scientifically? Finally, do you have proof that there is no God?

Faith is based on evidence my friend. That evidence, however, like in a court might be based on a certain standard, the standard might be to prove to some like you that without any dubt that there is a God, but the standard could also be to prove to people like myself that on the banlance or probabilities there is a God, and that he is the one that inspired men to write the bible. So the evidence of God or a Creator is all around you, it seems however that your standard of proof, like many others today and even in Jesus' day, is set very high. But even in Jesues' day when he showed them many signs and wonders/miracles, they still didn't believe and then crucified him. So like people in those days, I doubt that it is evidence that is keeping people like yourself from believing in the Bible or how it came about, for possibly no amount of evidence can change your heart or mind.

In fact, the Bible is not written necessarily to convince anyone, but more so to present evidence and for you to then make up your heart and mind about the existance of God.



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DaRev said:
Cheebee said:
Fireforgey said:
Cheebee said:

These threads are getting more and more lol-worthy. xD I can't believeso many people still cling to such dark-age ideas, -just- because so many others say they're true.

I believe WiiU passed PS360 lifetime sales last week. Doesn't matter if there's no proof. I believe it's true, so it must be. I don't care if you don't agree with me, you don't share my belief so you're obviously ignorant and very wrong.


I'm not sure whether you're talking about Christianity or a belief in God in general but there is a huge discrepancy between reality and your example.

with the belief in god it is we have some proof, but it isn't enough for other people.

Then there are those that deny that God exists, have no proof that he exists, but don't have any proff that he DOESN'T exist.  When there is no proof either way then people are free to believe in what they want. 

Not christianity, but belief in a god in general. And no, we do not have 'some proof'. Some people like to think so, but if such 'proof' is in any way disputable
by science, or logic, then it's not proof. Obviously people are free to believe whatever they want. But that's all it is, belief. It's called that precisely -because- we do not have proof. Faith is called faith because there's no proof, people simply choose to believe something's true.

Do you have proof at what is at the center of the Earth and what is at the edge of our Universe? How about what our Universe is made out of, can you put it together in lab and make one scientifically? Finally, do you have proof that there is no God?

Faith is based on evidence my friend.

I just have to intervene now, because this is just... ridiculous.

Yes, we know pretty much what the Universe is made up of. It's called Dark energy and Dark Matter. These two substances makes out something like 95-99% of the Universe. Science does a much better job of explaining the Universe and reality than ANY religion does. It even explains human psychology much much better. Just a few months ago scientists proved the existence of the Higgs particle, which was theorized to exist and would explain why the world functions in the way the world function. The theory science made up has been proven to be a reality. Nothing the Bible said has been proven a reality, except that the jews exists and has been living in and around Jerusalem for quite a while. But that's backed up by science.

Faith is NOT based on evidence. Science is based by evidence, and is therefore changeable since NEW evidence is discovered and therefore alters the "truth". Faith is set in stone, whereas science is not.



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DanneSandin said:
DaRev said:
Cheebee said:
Fireforgey said:
Cheebee said:

These threads are getting more and more lol-worthy. xD I can't believeso many people still cling to such dark-age ideas, -just- because so many others say they're true.

I believe WiiU passed PS360 lifetime sales last week. Doesn't matter if there's no proof. I believe it's true, so it must be. I don't care if you don't agree with me, you don't share my belief so you're obviously ignorant and very wrong.


I'm not sure whether you're talking about Christianity or a belief in God in general but there is a huge discrepancy between reality and your example.

with the belief in god it is we have some proof, but it isn't enough for other people.

Then there are those that deny that God exists, have no proof that he exists, but don't have any proff that he DOESN'T exist.  When there is no proof either way then people are free to believe in what they want. 

Not christianity, but belief in a god in general. And no, we do not have 'some proof'. Some people like to think so, but if such 'proof' is in any way disputable
by science, or logic, then it's not proof. Obviously people are free to believe whatever they want. But that's all it is, belief. It's called that precisely -because- we do not have proof. Faith is called faith because there's no proof, people simply choose to believe something's true.

Do you have proof at what is at the center of the Earth and what is at the edge of our Universe? How about what our Universe is made out of, can you put it together in lab and make one scientifically? Finally, do you have proof that there is no God?

Faith is based on evidence my friend.

I just have to intervene now, because this is just... ridiculous.

Yes, we know pretty much what the Universe is made up of. It's called Dark energy and Dark Matter. These two substances makes out something like 95-99% of the Universe. Science does a much better job of explaining the Universe and reality than ANY religion does. It even explains human psychology much much better. Just a few months ago scientists proved the existence of the Higgs particle, which was theorized to exist and would explain why the world functions in the way the world function. The theory science made up has been proven to be a reality. Nothing the Bible said has been proven a reality, except that the jews exists and has been living in and around Jerusalem for quite a while. But that's backed up by science.

Faith is NOT based on evidence. Science is based by evidence, and is therefore changeable since NEW evidence is discovered and therefore alters the "truth". Faith is set in stone, whereas science is not.

If the Bible proved nothing is a reality, the Quran did. You will find many explanations to things which science found to be true hundreds of years after it was stated in the Quran.

Here are some examples:

http://www.freewebs.com/proofofislam/scienceinthequran.htm



Frank_kc said:

If the Bible proved nothing is a reality, the Quran did. You will find many explanations to things which science found to be true hundreds of years after it was stated in the Quran.

Here are some examples:

http://www.freewebs.com/proofofislam/scienceinthequran.htm

Hmmm, just skimmed through parts of it - but it's interesting stuff! But so is Nostrudamus' prophecies. They are vague so that we can interpret them how ever we like, and retro fit it into things we know. Some of the things are quite stunning, like the description of the Big Bang. If this is the ONLY religion describing such events I'll give you a point, but if there is several of these descriptions in other religions I won't. But one thing that caught my eye is: “It is not permitted to the Sun to catch up the Moon, nor can the Night outstrip the Day" These events are impossible and reflects the thought that both the Sun and the Moon races across the sky - which they aren't. But interesting stuff nonetheless!



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DaRev said:

Do you have proof at what is at the center of the Earth and what is at the edge of our Universe? How about what our Universe is made out of, can you put it together in lab and make one scientifically? Finally, do you have proof that there is no God?

Faith is based on evidence my friend. That evidence, however, like in a court might be based on a certain standard, the standard might be to prove to some like you that without any dubt that there is a God, but the standard could also be to prove to people like myself that on the banlance or probabilities there is a God, and that he is the one that inspired men to write the bible. So the evidence of God or a Creator is all around you, it seems however that your standard of proof, like many others today and even in Jesus' day, is set very high. But even in Jesues' day when he showed them many signs and wonders/miracles, they still didn't believe and then crucified him. So like people in those days, I doubt that it is evidence that is keeping people like yourself from believing in the Bible or how it came about, for possibly no amount of evidence can change your heart or mind.

In fact, the Bible is not written necessarily to convince anyone, but more so to present evidence and for you to then make up your heart and mind about the existance of God.

The composition of the center of the Earth has been known for decades. Not sure where you've been? Bible study?

Universe is comprised of dark matter - recent scientists proved this and won the Nobel prize.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-10/dark-energy-discovery-wins-physics-nobel

"Finally, do you have proof that there is no God" - The one in the Bible? Absolutely. A general God - absolutely not. Null hypothesis - you might as well be asking me to disprove the flying spaghetti monster. I hope you realize how stupid this argument is.

Faith - belief without proof.

proof  /pro͞of/Noun - Evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.

By definition, Faith is devoid of evidence (proof). Nice try, slick. 

The Bible isn't evidence of anything, it's a collection of documents written about fictitious things. (Jesus for one - fabricated out of thin air decades after his alleged death)