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Player1x3 said:
DieAppleDie said:
riderz13371 said:
DieAppleDie said:
no plz, no more Heavy rain...

What does that have to do with anything? Did you even read the article?



I dont want videogames to be like movies with people crying, serial killers, drugs and sex and people talking about traumas and feelings on a hyperrealistic environment, just no, i already have my real dose of those things EVERYDAY OF MY FUCKING LIFE I WANT GAMES!

Then stick to your plumber saving a princess  from a giant turtle for billionth time for the last 25 years. Leave realistic, deeper and more complex games to people who want their experience to be little more fulfilling than just using 3 buttons to pass a level



3 buttons? like Heavy rain you mean? oh wait HR didnt even used that many



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Player1x3 said:
DieAppleDie said:
riderz13371 said:
DieAppleDie said:
no plz, no more Heavy rain...

What does that have to do with anything? Did you even read the article?



I dont want videogames to be like movies with people crying, serial killers, drugs and sex and people talking about traumas and feelings on a hyperrealistic environment, just no, i already have my real dose of those things EVERYDAY OF MY FUCKING LIFE I WANT GAMES!

Then stick to your plumber saving a princess  from a giant turtle for billionth time for the last 25 years. Leave realistic, deeper and more complex games to people who want their experience to be little more fulfilling than just using 3 buttons to pass a level


Except that Mario isn't a story driven game?  And OMGZ THIS GAME USES LOTSES OF BUTTONZ!!! IT IS SOOOOOO COMPLEX AND MATURE!!!!



DieAppleDie said:
Player1x3 said:
DieAppleDie said:
riderz13371 said:
DieAppleDie said:
no plz, no more Heavy rain...

What does that have to do with anything? Did you even read the article?



I dont want videogames to be like movies with people crying, serial killers, drugs and sex and people talking about traumas and feelings on a hyperrealistic environment, just no, i already have my real dose of those things EVERYDAY OF MY FUCKING LIFE I WANT GAMES!

Then stick to your plumber saving a princess  from a giant turtle for billionth time for the last 25 years. Leave realistic, deeper and more complex games to people who want their experience to be little more fulfilling than just using 3 buttons to pass a level



3 buttons? like Heavy rain you mean? oh wait HR didnt even used that many

You've never even played Heavy Rain stop acting like you actually know anything about the game lol. You're just a saying what other people who haven't played the game say. "Oh it's a movie not a game herp derp". Just like sheep, do nothing but follow others. 



DieAppleDie said:
Player1x3 said:
DieAppleDie said:
riderz13371 said:
DieAppleDie said:
no plz, no more Heavy rain...

What does that have to do with anything? Did you even read the article?



I dont want videogames to be like movies with people crying, serial killers, drugs and sex and people talking about traumas and feelings on a hyperrealistic environment, just no, i already have my real dose of those things EVERYDAY OF MY FUCKING LIFE I WANT GAMES!

Then stick to your plumber saving a princess  from a giant turtle for billionth time for the last 25 years. Leave realistic, deeper and more complex games to people who want their experience to be little more fulfilling than just using 3 buttons to pass a level



3 buttons? like Heavy rain you mean? oh wait HR didnt even used that many


I think I recall using every button on the controller in heavy Rain at one point or another...



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
sensebringer said:
Play4Fun said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
RazorDragon said:
But before rising above the idiot plot, they should rise above the Indiana Jones plot.


saving the same princess for the 4000 time is a better plot than indiana jones plot?

Mario isn't a story-driven game. People play it for just the gameplay, hardly anyone gives a shit about the story.

Attempt at being a smart alec = FAIL.

Quoted for the truth. Nobody was talking about Mario. Just a cheap and really pathetic trolling attempt.

like the cheap and trolling attempt by your frien RazorDragon there ;)


Except that my cheap attempt at trolling was actually funny. It's hard trying to have some humour in internet, people are so defensive these days.



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DieAppleDie said:
Player1x3 said:
DieAppleDie said:
riderz13371 said:
DieAppleDie said:
no plz, no more Heavy rain...

What does that have to do with anything? Did you even read the article?



I dont want videogames to be like movies with people crying, serial killers, drugs and sex and people talking about traumas and feelings on a hyperrealistic environment, just no, i already have my real dose of those things EVERYDAY OF MY FUCKING LIFE I WANT GAMES!

Then stick to your plumber saving a princess  from a giant turtle for billionth time for the last 25 years. Leave realistic, deeper and more complex games to people who want their experience to be little more fulfilling than just using 3 buttons to pass a level



3 buttons? like Heavy rain you mean? oh wait HR didnt even used that many


That depends on the difficulty you set before the game. Some challenges made by the Origami killer can be extremely difficult since they require you to hold 5 or more buttons at once while using analogue sticks or motion controls 



Wow this thread got hostile quickly lol. Seriously though, it's always someone from a different "fanbase" usually with either a Halo/Gears avatar or Mario/Reggie ^^^^ avatar who says something negative about a series that's obviously loved by the Sony fanbase, and when those fans defend the game the aggressors act like they did nothing wrong. (This happens vice versa for all fanbases too)

You are poking the bear, knock it off. If you don't like the Uncharted games or feel that what the guy said was a bit arrogant you totally have the right to that opinion and to respond in this thread but tone down the hate a bit my god. It's so apparent half of the disagreements were literally meant to upset fans of the franchise.



JWeinCom said:
Player1x3 said:
DieAppleDie said:
riderz13371 said:
DieAppleDie said:
no plz, no more Heavy rain...

What does that have to do with anything? Did you even read the article?



I dont want videogames to be like movies with people crying, serial killers, drugs and sex and people talking about traumas and feelings on a hyperrealistic environment, just no, i already have my real dose of those things EVERYDAY OF MY FUCKING LIFE I WANT GAMES!

Then stick to your plumber saving a princess  from a giant turtle for billionth time for the last 25 years. Leave realistic, deeper and more complex games to people who want their experience to be little more fulfilling than just using 3 buttons to pass a level


Except that Mario isn't a story driven game?  And OMGZ THIS GAME USES LOTSES OF BUTTONZ!!! IT IS SOOOOOO COMPLEX AND MATURE!!!!

Are you going to try and convince me how games like TLOU, Heavy Rain and Journey aren't more mature and complex than platformer mario?

 

vs.

Gimme a fuckin break dude



why don't the nintendo fans that have no interest in discussing the topic move on to a thread where the wii u is being discussed or something?



JinxRake said:


I'm afraid I disagree on that bit, quite severely even.

I mentioned Morrowind in my previous post. That game has a great story. It is a fantasy adventure set against the backdrop of one of the most beautiful fantasy worlds ever conceived, with some of the best world building available in almost any format. Its story is absolutely fantastic and it invites to exploration and discovery. It won't force feed you anything, but it does rival some of the best works out there. I am as ready to believe in the island of Morrowind as I am to believe in the Discworld, the Malazan Empire, Westeros or even in New Crobuzon.

Same would go for Final Fantasy IX for example, for Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Legacy of Kain...heck, even Ace Combat 5 I'd log in there without shame.

I don't believe games are behind books or films in regards to telling a compelling story, but rather that games have a completely different way of getting the story across to the people playing. The scale of events is generally different between mediums. While Starcraft can have a great story about the three races as they try to survive and overcome their difficulties, the Starcraft books can concentrate on grounded characters and the horrors of the Zerg and their invasion, giving a ground level eye witness view of the whole thing.

Which is superior? Neither, as they both get a message across, each in its way or form.

 

As I said and I repeat: most of our entertainment is made up of pure crap that needs to be explored for the gems that may hide.

There will be games with great stories and some people will not even know they have been told a great story because the cues are not as clear as some would require.

There will be books with great action and great worlds presented, and some will not know that either because there will be no pictures.

Such is the way of entertainment. You can't please everyone.

I agree that different forms have their weaknesses and strengths. Good books have better stories than good movies, but movies are easier to consume and are more impressive with pictures. Games have their strengths too, but on the side of interactivity, not on the story-side. Which is the one we are talking about. Again, try my test: make a playthrough video of a great game, unedited. and show it in a cinema together with a great movie from the same genre. Which one will the audience like more?



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