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Forums - Microsoft - Surface Pro is releasing on Feb 9th. Who is getting it, why and why not?

Munkeh111 on 07 February 2013
timmah said:
Munkeh111 said:
I am not interested for a few reasons:
1) I have just made myself an uber-powerful gaming PC, I probably should be buying more electronics, my old laptop is still usable if not very portable

2) I have an Android tablet....it's alright I guess, though I might upgrade it to something better, depending on the price of Sony XPERIA tablet Z

3) I am interested in a Win 8 device, but I am more the Sony Vaio Duo 11 than the form factor of the Surface. I watched the Verge's video review and large portion of it was mocking the fact that you can't use it on your lap... which is the one problem I have with my dual-screen monster. I think the idea of a slider or something where there is a proper keyboard dock (like the Asus Transformer line) is far more interesting to me, especially as I find a keyboard to be soooo much quicker to everything than a touch screen

So to summarise
1) Time isn't right
2) Already have a year and a half old Android tablet
3) Not convinced about the form factor

@bold: I honestly don't get why the reviewers keep harping on that. It's basically a tablet with a keyboard cover, not a laptop or hybrid (so they're taking issue with it not doing something that, by definition, it was never designed to do). Try using an iPad in your lap. When I'm sitting and don't have a table/desk, I flip the cover back and use it as it was designed, like a tablet. I also have a laptop for longer trips (using as a desktop alternative), but the tablet is great for light work when mobile.

If you want true laptop functionality, it obviously wouldn't be for you.

But I think it is designed to do that, I feel it is meant to bridge the gap between a tablet and a laptop, it is meant to mean that you don't need a tablet and an iPad, but maybe it is just me that feels that way? It is certainly what I would be looking for in a device if I was going to spend well over £500



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timmah on 07 February 2013
Munkeh111 said:
timmah said:
Munkeh111 said:
I am not interested for a few reasons:
1) I have just made myself an uber-powerful gaming PC, I probably should be buying more electronics, my old laptop is still usable if not very portable

2) I have an Android tablet....it's alright I guess, though I might upgrade it to something better, depending on the price of Sony XPERIA tablet Z

3) I am interested in a Win 8 device, but I am more the Sony Vaio Duo 11 than the form factor of the Surface. I watched the Verge's video review and large portion of it was mocking the fact that you can't use it on your lap... which is the one problem I have with my dual-screen monster. I think the idea of a slider or something where there is a proper keyboard dock (like the Asus Transformer line) is far more interesting to me, especially as I find a keyboard to be soooo much quicker to everything than a touch screen

So to summarise
1) Time isn't right
2) Already have a year and a half old Android tablet
3) Not convinced about the form factor

@bold: I honestly don't get why the reviewers keep harping on that. It's basically a tablet with a keyboard cover, not a laptop or hybrid (so they're taking issue with it not doing something that, by definition, it was never designed to do). Try using an iPad in your lap. When I'm sitting and don't have a table/desk, I flip the cover back and use it as it was designed, like a tablet. I also have a laptop for longer trips (using as a desktop alternative), but the tablet is great for light work when mobile.

If you want true laptop functionality, it obviously wouldn't be for you.

But I think it is designed to do that, I feel it is meant to bridge the gap between a tablet and a laptop, it is meant to mean that you don't need a tablet and an iPad, but maybe it is just me that feels that way? It is certainly what I would be looking for in a device if I was going to spend well over £500

If you look at the ads & kickstand design, it's clearly designed to be used with on a hard surface when using the kickstand/keyboard cover. Also, it's marketed as a tablet, it's never been expected that any other tablet could be used in a lap, so it's a silly complaint for a tablet. I almost never use a laptop in my lap anyway, so it's no big deal to me. There are plenty of actual convertibles/hybrids that would suit that need.



Munkeh111 on 07 February 2013
timmah said:
Munkeh111 said:

But I think it is designed to do that, I feel it is meant to bridge the gap between a tablet and a laptop, it is meant to mean that you don't need a tablet and an iPad, but maybe it is just me that feels that way? It is certainly what I would be looking for in a device if I was going to spend well over £500

If you look at the ads & kickstand design, it's clearly designed to be used with on a hard surface when using the kickstand/keyboard cover. Also, it's marketed as a tablet, it's never been expected that any other tablet could be used in a lap, so it's a silly complaint for a tablet. I almost never use a laptop in my lap anyway, so it's no big deal to me. There are plenty of actual convertibles/hybrids that would suit that need.

But it has full Windows 8 in, I expect to be able to use it properly....



timmah on 07 February 2013

By the way, I want one of these. It's a 20" all-in-one by Sony that has a battery in it, so it can be taken anywhere in the house. Biggest. Tablet. Ever.

Just imagine setting this on your coffee table and using the Xbox Smart Glass app! EPIC!

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/pd/Sony-VAIO-Tap-20-Touchscreen-All-in-One-SVJ20214CYB/productID.257323000/vip.true



timmah on 07 February 2013
Munkeh111 said:
timmah said:
Munkeh111 said:

But I think it is designed to do that, I feel it is meant to bridge the gap between a tablet and a laptop, it is meant to mean that you don't need a tablet and an iPad, but maybe it is just me that feels that way? It is certainly what I would be looking for in a device if I was going to spend well over £500

If you look at the ads & kickstand design, it's clearly designed to be used with on a hard surface when using the kickstand/keyboard cover. Also, it's marketed as a tablet, it's never been expected that any other tablet could be used in a lap, so it's a silly complaint for a tablet. I almost never use a laptop in my lap anyway, so it's no big deal to me. There are plenty of actual convertibles/hybrids that would suit that need.

But it has full Windows 8 in, I expect to be able to use it properly....

Technically, using a tablet in your lap is not using it 'properly', so you would probably just get a convertible or laptop instead. It's still a silly complaint for the reviewers to have.



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NobleTeam360 on 07 February 2013

Isn't this one designed for business people? I know anyone can buy it but business people are the ones they had in mind with this version.



Munkeh111 on 07 February 2013
timmah said:
Munkeh111 said:
timmah said:
Munkeh111 said:

But I think it is designed to do that, I feel it is meant to bridge the gap between a tablet and a laptop, it is meant to mean that you don't need a tablet and an iPad, but maybe it is just me that feels that way? It is certainly what I would be looking for in a device if I was going to spend well over £500

If you look at the ads & kickstand design, it's clearly designed to be used with on a hard surface when using the kickstand/keyboard cover. Also, it's marketed as a tablet, it's never been expected that any other tablet could be used in a lap, so it's a silly complaint for a tablet. I almost never use a laptop in my lap anyway, so it's no big deal to me. There are plenty of actual convertibles/hybrids that would suit that need.

But it has full Windows 8 in, I expect to be able to use it properly....

Technically, using a tablet in your lap is not using it 'properly', so you would probably just get a convertible or laptop instead. It's still a silly complaint for the reviewers to have.

Well it is something that I was looking for from it... So I am not sure I would call it silly

As for the Vaio Tap 20, now that is something I would call silly! But kind of awesome at the same time, I think the main problem with it is that it's battery isn't actually very good at all



Scoobes on 07 February 2013

I won't be getting one in the foreseeable future as it's fairly pricey and I simply don't need a laptop/ultrabook/tablet.
For you, it sounds like it could be a good purchase as it'd run all the legacy software and you could use it as a tablet when needed. I doubt it'd be good for games though so you might want to shop around third-party offerings if you plan on doing some gaming.




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timmah on 07 February 2013
Munkeh111 said:
timmah said:
Munkeh111 said:
timmah said:
Munkeh111 said:

But I think it is designed to do that, I feel it is meant to bridge the gap between a tablet and a laptop, it is meant to mean that you don't need a tablet and an iPad, but maybe it is just me that feels that way? It is certainly what I would be looking for in a device if I was going to spend well over £500

If you look at the ads & kickstand design, it's clearly designed to be used with on a hard surface when using the kickstand/keyboard cover. Also, it's marketed as a tablet, it's never been expected that any other tablet could be used in a lap, so it's a silly complaint for a tablet. I almost never use a laptop in my lap anyway, so it's no big deal to me. There are plenty of actual convertibles/hybrids that would suit that need.

But it has full Windows 8 in, I expect to be able to use it properly....

Technically, using a tablet in your lap is not using it 'properly', so you would probably just get a convertible or laptop instead. It's still a silly complaint for the reviewers to have.

Well it is something that I was looking for from it... So I am not sure I would call it silly

As for the Vaio Tap 20, now that is something I would call silly! But kind of awesome at the same time, I think the main problem with it is that it's battery isn't actually very good at all

Not silly for you to address (since you need that ability), but silly for reviewers (who should know it's not designed to be used in a lap in the first place) to make a big deal out of.

The Tap 20 is silly, but in an epic, awesome way. Battery life is 4 hours of actual use, which is pretty damn good for something that big.



NintendoPie on 07 February 2013

I'm not getting it. My reason is that I have a iPad... which I don't really use...