Far-fetched, but interesting.
I hope it's true because if the HD sucessors actually did such DRM, they'd fail so hard, and set an example for everyone in the future.
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Far-fetched, but interesting.
I hope it's true because if the HD sucessors actually did such DRM, they'd fail so hard, and set an example for everyone in the future.
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actually I hope its true, so I dont have to buy all consoles like this gen :)
| pokoko said: I keep reading that EA is angry at Nintendo because they changed their minds about allowing Origin on the Wii U. Someone have anything close to proof of that? |
No. Pick and choose which rumour best fits your narrative.

Mr Khan said:
Does everyone forget E3 2011? John Ricitiello himself went on-stage at Nintendo's press conference, and announced that, with the Wii U, EA and Nintendo would be enjoying an "unprecedented partnership," implying a more intimate 3rd party/manufacturer relationship than has ever existed. E3 2012: No EA on stage. Gimped Madden, gimped Mass Effect 3, promised Battlefield 3 port is gone. In between is???? Now we have the "Origin" theory. While assuming that there is no "evidence" for any sort of large scale breakup, we have what Ricitiello talked up at E3 2011 to go by. Namely, he seemed to indicate that the great thing about Wii U was how Nintendo would allow third parties to use their own online networks in lieu of a centralized Nintendo experience. It's possible that EA pushed ahead from there, asking for Origin to be the very framework upon which the Wii U online experience was founded, a seeming win-win for EA and Nintendo: EA's struggling Steam alternative would be foisted upon an entire userbase (depending on how successful Wii U became, 40 to 80 million new users), while the online-noob Nintendo would get a mature network. The losers in this scenario being Activision (imagine, Call of Duty forced to run through Origin for Wii U players) and every other third party. Knowing that it would be bad for consumers and bad for other 3rd parties, Nintendo pulls back. So EA gets butthurt, cancels any Wii U project they can, and sends all other Wii U projects out to die (Mass Effect, NFS Most Wanted, Madden, FIFA) And those familiar with EA's history know that butthurt and petty, spiteful revenge are not beyond EA. EA tried to threaten Sega to not make the 2K Sports series on Dreamcast, and when Sega proceeded to do so, EA refused to publish any games for Dreamcast period. EA *thinks* that their petulance had a role in bringing down the Dreamcast, and they think they're important enough to bring down the Wii U and Nintendo along with it. |
No offense, but that is entirely and completely over the top with Nintendo-centric justifications. You have to know how many assumptions you're making there, right? And how far you're bending over backwards to make Nintendo look like the defenders of justice?
If there is any truth to EA believing that Nintendo would allow Origin on the Wii U, then it would be something closer to what is on PC, something minor that you can mostly ignore. It most likely wouldn't have been a big deal.
Also, if Ricitiello went on stage believing that, and EA made plans for games based on that, then that would mean that Nintendo broke an agreement--again. If they had something in place, and Nintendo changed their minds later, then it's no real surprise that EA pulled away--not because they're pouting, but because they would stand to make less money. And, make no mistake, if Nintendo broke the agreement, it was because they came to the conclusion that THEY would make less money if they did not. Nintendo is as cutthroat as anyone in the gaming industry.

| Roma said: I think it's more to do with Nintendo not wanting EAs Origin |
Its obviously this.
They want origin to compete with steam and that was gonna help them alot. I dont know why the deal fell through, but knowing EA's greedy ways i can imagine.
As for used games block... its a deal breaker for me. Next Xbox is off the buying plans two fold now. Sony best not go the same route.
Sal.Paradise said:
No. Pick and choose which rumour best fits your narrative. |
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pokoko said:
No offense, but that is entirely and completely over the top with Nintendo-centric justifications. You have to know how many assumptions you're making there, right? And how far you're bending over backwards to make Nintendo look like the defenders of justice? If there is any truth to EA believing that Nintendo would allow Origin on the Wii U, then it would be something closer to what is on PC, something minor that you can mostly ignore. It most likely wouldn't have been a big deal. Also, if Ricitiello went on stage believing that, and EA made plans for games based on that, then that would mean that Nintendo broke an agreement--again. If they had something in place, and Nintendo changed their minds later, then it's no real surprise that EA pulled away--not because they're pouting, but because they would stand to make less money. And, make no mistake, if Nintendo broke the agreement, it was because they came to the conclusion that THEY would make less money if they did not. Nintendo is as cutthroat as anyone in the gaming industry.
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But the idea is that the terms of the agreement were fundamentally unfair, tilted in EA's favor. Which, again, EA has a history of doing. Similar to why Nintendo broke the PS deal with Sony, because Sony was demanding control over Nintendo IP.
The fact of the matter is that EA's history is against them in this matter, moreso than Nintendo. EA is indeed out for money, but in an "all or nothing" sort of way.

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cyberninja45 said:
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Thanks for supporting my argument.

The whole idea that Nintendo would allow EA to have control of WiiU online network seems nonsense for me.
Why would anyone think Nintendo is willing to abdicate the right of selling content to wii U owners exclusively in their network ? It would be the same as saying Nintendo doesn't like making money.
| Mr Khan said: But the idea is that the terms of the agreement were fundamentally unfair, tilted in EA's favor. Which, again, EA has a history of doing. Similar to why Nintendo broke the PS deal with Sony, because Sony was demanding control over Nintendo IP. The fact of the matter is that EA's history is against them in this matter, moreso than Nintendo. EA is indeed out for money, but in an "all or nothing" sort of way. |
Show me that agreement, then. And, anyway, if there was an agreement, then what it said doesn't actually matter; if Nintendo made a bad agreement then it's their own fault. If they trotted EA out there KNOWING that they weren't going to honor that agreement then they lied to EA AND their own fans.
All I'm seeing is biased supposition designed to remove any trace of blame or responsibility from Nintendo. I've never seen a victim's role applied to a large, wealthy corporation so often. It's like everyone hating Ken Levine for talking about how much he liked the Wii U but no one blaming Nintendo for showing that clip during E3. At some point people are going to have to stop defending and making excuses for Nintendo for everything that happens. They are responsible for their own business decisions, just like everyone else.
