Mostly everybody else is playing ball with nintendo....what makes ea so special where their games aren't being made for nintendo systems?

And you immediately assume that Nintendo is in the wrong.

Nintendo aren't saints, certainly. They've run their share of bad business practices in the past, but when it comes to their relationships with third parties; they are the victims. (with indie developers, the question is more complicated, as Nintendo has made some abusive decisions there), but all Nintendo has tried to do is give third parties what they want, often to Nintendo's own detriment, and yet they get spat on.

nintendo didnt break the deal with sony because sony demanded control over nintendo IP, this is the first time i hear this. nintendo broke the partnership because they didnt want to devide the profits with sony, since they were working on a console that had cd and cartridges the deal was sony would make the profits from the cd sales and nintendo from cartridges. nintendo didnt want to split the profits and probably see most of the profits to go to sony as they realized cd systems were going to be the future. they fucked over sony and went with philips, then they broke out of that one, but one of the agreements was that philips could license some nintedo IP's so philips kinda fucked over nintendo with that. in a way nintendo broke the deal with sony because they wanted to get the profits in an "all or nothing" sort of way, yes like EA wanted it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIcVajVMHgU&list=PLWrkWfS2J017GPEXAvShJJYeTZKeX7sMD

You mean the publishers. I don't think the developers care as much about that. At least for the most part.

There are a few issues but rumor has its about origin and Nintendo refusing to make it the sole distributor. What confuses me is if it truly is about origin then will 720/ps4 be using only origin? Why punish 1 company and not the other 2 no matter the reasoning it's complete nonsense.

The second point about 3rd party support yes porting seems a bit odd; however, there is no reason games releasing 2nd half of 2013 can't release on at the same time (aliens is a prime example) if you release them before the wii u version of course 140 million combined user base will outsell a new 3million one. Now if they all release at the same time I'm not saying nintendos system will be greatly affected but at least show you care.

Another multi point issue. Nintendo needs to front cash to either buy exclusives or timed exclusives with bigger named games. Which leads to another issue about third party support. I know companies want to make money on games but that doesn't mean dump shit shovel ware onto the system. It also means stop with the bullshit we couldn't think of a good way to use the new controller for the system..... Really ... The system uses wiimotes the gamepad and pro controllers. You mean you couldn't just mirror the 360/ps3 buttons and just add off screen play? Like COD hell just throw vitals or mission logs on the screen and be done. We don't need ever game to be ground breaking, let Nintendo do that with their first party games if need be Jesus I tired of that excuse. Then again releasing 1 third party game a year doesn't help. Look at all the core games released on 360/ps3 that sell like shit or just barely make enough to break even, how many companies have went under in the last 12 months? Yes you may not make all your investment back right away or even at all on the first batch of games, but if you show continued support eventually the username will grow making it legit to make core games for the system. Now I think I see where Nintendo are going with the system and it's capabilities. When the new systems come out the first 1-2 years may be a struggle for certain companies and while we will see some great looking games on the new systems it may be to much for companies to use UE4 engine or other expensive software, thus creating games that are at best 100% wii u capability and downgrading the resolution to put them on 360/ps3, and also adding more players in multiplayer or better textures/lighting and tesselation to take advantage of 720/ps4. Which again will allow companies to take advantage of the large current install base plus the newer technologies of next gen systems all while making a profit.

As someone above said companies are in it to make money, that being said does anyone see a return on a 25-30 million dollar investment of a game in the launch window of the next Sony and Microsoft system? If you do you are completely insane. These companies again as stated above want to make money so get that out of your head. These games will be made for all 5 systems. One last thing about money and third parties. These companies do make money on Nintendo even if they release the games on the 3ds it's ok to support the handheld but not the console? Come on, it's basic playground bully crap does anyone really think Nintendo would be getting better treatment if they had a 8 core processor and a 680 gtx video card? Hell no. People are made at Nintendo for whatever reason so they avoid the system.

On a lesser note I see a lot of people saying man I would get the wii u but only has 1-2 games that I want. Well buy the system, more games will follow and more games will be made especially if the core market grows. Stop saying you can't justify the purchase yet claim you wold buy a ps4 if for only 1 game. People are obnoxious. I really hope Nintendo drops the console price to 225-250$ for next Xmas to do to next gen systems what happened to vita last year. ( then again I'm buying next Xbox regardless this time around)

There won't be any proof, it would have been waaaaay too early in the dev cycle to have anything concrete (18 months before launch). What you have to look at is the facts which we know at the time:

-EA wished to create an online market to rival Steam

-Nintendo needed to strengthen online marketing

-EA and Nintendo apparantly to "grow much closer than ever before"

Conclusion: EA's Origin would control the Wii U's online.

One year later:

-No sign of EA

-No mention of EA's Origin working for the system

-Lack of game releases/ports with effort

Conclusion- Nintendo and EA had a falling out over Origin, likely because it would lose Nintendo favour with other 3rd parties.

Of course, this is completely hypothetical and I'm not saying that this is all EA's fault if true; far from it. But it is the most likely reason why the Wii U seems to be getting ignored from 3rd parties; moreso than the used games theory (though this could certainly contribute is the rumours are true).

Because, in fact, they mostly suck.

thats entirely not true, it is nintendo who spat on 3rd parties during the nes and snes generations. it was sega and sony who came and developed strong relationships with third parties and nintendo lived with the consequence's of that during the n64/gamecube days. 

No, I don't.  I know that EA is greedy to an extreme.  However, that greed is why I refuse to believe "EA is just mad" or anything like that without any real proof.  EA is responsible for thier own decisions, just like Nintendo.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this.  I think Nintendo is a lot further away from being a victim than a lot of their fans choose to believe.  The decisions they make as hardware manufacturers determine the decisions that software developers and publishers make more than the other way around.  I'm just not prepared to assume that goal-oriented businesspeople are out to doom Nintendo just because of spite, not without actual proof.

The very same "goal-oriented businesspeople" who refused to work with Sega out of sheer spite? You know how that conversation went, right?