bananaking21 said:
thats entirely not true, it is nintendo who spat on 3rd parties during the nes and snes generations. it was sega and sony who came and developed strong relationships with third parties and nintendo lived with the consequence's of that during the n64/gamecube days. |
That was 20 years ago, and Nintendo have spent the last 10 years trying to improve their relationship with 3rd parties, but ofcourse there is a limit how far they are willing to go.
| Conegamer said: There won't be any proof, it would have been waaaaay too early in the dev cycle to have anything concrete (18 months before launch). What you have to look at is the facts which we know at the time: -EA wished to create an online market to rival Steam -Nintendo needed to strengthen online marketing -EA and Nintendo apparantly to "grow much closer than ever before"
Conclusion: EA's Origin would control the Wii U's online. One year later: -No sign of EA -No mention of EA's Origin working for the system -Lack of game releases/ports with effort
Conclusion- Nintendo and EA had a falling out over Origin, likely because it would lose Nintendo favour with other 3rd parties.
Of course, this is completely hypothetical and I'm not saying that this is all EA's fault if true; far from it. But it is the most likely reason why the Wii U seems to be getting ignored from 3rd parties; moreso than the used games theory (though this could certainly contribute is the rumours are true). |
The bolded part seems like absolute fantasy to me. There is no way I'm going to believe that Nintendo would ever, ever consider giving up control of its online store to another company. Ever, period. Or even that another company would ask something so unlikely. It doesn't even really make sense, as EA wouldn't really be in a position to do that effectively.
If there was a disagreement, it almost certainly was over the same issue EA had with Steam, which was about EA wanting the functionality to sell DLC from inside the games themselves and Valve not wanting to give up a share of the profits from said DLC.
pokoko said:
The bolded part seems like absolute fantasy to me. There is no way I'm going to believe that Nintendo would ever, ever consider giving up control of its online store to another company. Ever, period. Or even that another company would ask something so unlikely. It doesn't even really make sense, as EA wouldn't really be in a position to do that effectively. If there was a disagreement, it almost certainly was over the same issue EA had with Steam, which was about EA wanting the functionality to sell DLC from inside the games themselves and Valve not wanting to give up a share of the profits from said DLC. |
Perhaps the way I phrased it was a bit strong, but I agree there's no way that Nintendo would allow anyone but themselves so close into their console but themselves.
However, it's quite clear that EA were playing some sort of major role in the console, likely to do with Origin, but who knows quite what.
| pokoko said: If there was a disagreement, it almost certainly was over the same issue EA had with Steam, which was about EA wanting the functionality to sell DLC from inside the games themselves and Valve not wanting to give up a share of the profits from said DLC. |
Isn't DLC already sold within the game on the eShop? That's how it works on 3DS.
I doubt it's about profits from digital sales, since so many smaller developers have heaped praise on the eShop for how indie-friendly it is, right down to being more profitable for them. Unless you think Nintendo was trying to force higher rates on bigger publishers, but then why would only EA balk?
the_dengle said:
Isn't DLC already sold within the game on the eShop? That's how it works on 3DS. I doubt it's about profits from digital sales, since so many smaller developers have heaped praise on the eShop for how indie-friendly it is, right down to being more profitable for them. Unless you think Nintendo was trying to force higher rates on bigger publishers, but then why would only EA balk? |
I don't know how it works on Nintendo's network, to be honest. Someone else is going to have to answer that. All I can say is that the problem Valve had is that they were getting no slice of the DLC pie if a person bought DLC from inside the game via Origin. They'd still get money if the DLC was purchased from Steam, of course, but what EA was doing was circumventing that process.
When you buy something from inside the game on a 3DS, is it from Nintendo's eShop or directly from the publisher via the web or a separate program?
i think 3rd parties hate and evy Nintendo for its strong indepndance, and the fact that they are not in the 'same' boat
even if it was Nintendos 'fault' i would choose Nintendo over most devs and publishers in the world, so.....fuck them all Nintendo, do it your way or die!
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