LMFAO. You're the one whose downplaying any sort of achievement the PS3 does. PS3 has The Last of US, God of War,  NinoKuni, Beyond...etc all these exlucsive games coming this year? WHO CARES US XBOX FANS WILL BE PLAYING ON THE NEXT GENERATION! 

Obviously I am paraphrasing but that is your general stance on PS3. We can never celebrate any achievement because you're bored of current-gen. The only reason I'm even replying to you is because your logic is so ridiculous that it is annoying and borderline trolling. I reported you so hopefully the mods deal with you. I'm done here.

Poe's law for sales threads. Impossible to distinguish between parodies of badly informed opinions and the sincere holders of them.

Ive been saying this argument since 2009. It aint a sudden response to sales trends. Nintendo/MS fans won't care. Only internet Sony fans will care, and thats a vast minority of real world PS3 gamers. Soooo in a "irrelevant" (:P) sense, yes it does matter.To me, if you can't pass within the window of being the most current console, then your celebrating lowering the bar.

I'm going to make a prediction.  You will be praising the crap out of the 360 if it passes the Wii in the US and/or UK, without a single peep of it being irrelevent, even though if it happens it will be about a year or more after the Wii U released.  Heck, it may happen after the NeXbox launches. 

Of course, you're ignoring a big factor.  Do you think the majority of the internet is going to go nuts when VGC numbers show the PS3 has passed the 360? Nope.  It'll go nuts after Sony's shipments show that they have outshipped the 360, which is going to happen before it shows in VGC numbers, and may happen before November.  Of course, an even bigger factor is that, in the end, this gen will only be remembered by the masses by its final shipment numbers.  So, no matter how many MS fans go on and on about it being irrelevent, they will mostly be ignored.

I said it in another thread, but when 360 passes Wii in certain areas, its "oh thats nice", but nothing more. Merely acknowledging it as it didnt overtake Wii outright. I offcourse cant speak for other 360 fans.

I had huge reservations about it from the start.  In 2004/5 Nintendo was wondering how to get more people to play.  They realized that the dual analog controllers were a huge discouragement for new people to begin playing (kids excepted).  Their solution was the wiimote.   It was admittedly an imperfect solution but it accomplished what Nintendo was after - grew their user base tremendously.    So to see them return to the dual analog controller (albeit with a touch screen attached) was a shock and disappointment. I knew instantly it would flop.  Casuals who didn't like the dual analog before certainly wouldn't like a bigger/bulkier and even more interface confusing one now and core gamers aren't going to take too kindly to the huge touchscreen either.   At that time it wasn't clear then how much the wiimote would continue to be supported though, or price, power, etc. 

Once it became clear that WiiU would be over-priced (because of the gamepad), underpowered (because of the cost of the gamepad), and lacked any killer core or casual launch title I knew it was doomed to Gamecube-like sales. Nintendoland fails because, while the appeal of the wiimote/Wii Sports was obvious, Nintendoland has to be played to see it's appeal and casual's won't want to play with the dual analog gamepad to begin with.    If they were willing to use dual analog they'd get a 360/PS3 with a s---load more games instead.  

WiiU (IMO) is completely and utterly screwed without an audience beyond the Nintendo faithful and I expected them to support WiiU better than what we're seeing.   I imagine once 3D Mario, Kart, Zelda, Smash, etc release the faithful will pick it up but now I'm starting to think it's sales will be closer to 10m as it's 3rd party support will likely be even worse than Gamecube's and GC at least had better tech and lower price than PS2.   WiiU will be substancially weaker than it's competition and likely just as expensive - possibly more, depending on how big a loss MS will take and how big a discount a 2yr XBL subscription will offer.

As a Wii fan I did feel NSMBWii was the last offering Nintendo made for people 'like me'.  Wii Party was 'meh', Wii Motion Plus sucked, and while I personally enjoyed Metroid: Other M and Kirby I'm sure most casuals or semi-core/casuals like me probably didn't look twice at them. Just Dance/Zumba Fitness saved Wii from falling even faster and further than it did.   And frankly Dance Central/Kinect is much better than those.

Your totally right, 360 didnt have PS brand behind it, mainland europe and Japan working in their favor, not to mention Live Gold prices, RROD, and a lack of retail AAA exclusives. Your so right that 360 was at a disadvantage, its amazing how long its holding out :P