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TakeMeToTheHospital said:
Player1x3 said:
TakeMeToTheHospital said:
Player1x3 said:
TakeMeToTheHospital said:

The Wii is one of the best selling consoles of all time.  It only sold better than 1 PS console

The 3DS is selling better than the DS up to this point in it's life and the DS is the best selling console of all time.  Wrong. PS2 is still the king

The Wii U is selling better than the PS3 and 360 so far. Not if you include PS3's european launch

What are you talking about? The WiiU is doing very poorly 

 

Also the Wii U will do awesome once the games come rolling out. I'm a grade 3/4 primary school teacher and almost everyone of my students wants a Wii U. 




1) I said ONE of the best selling consoles of all time. Isn't it the 4th best selling console of all time?  i know you did. it still sold better than only 1 ps console 

2) You serious? the numbers are so close the DS is practically the best selling console if not already. You must have known what i meant?   ugh, what? PS2 is still ahead, the DS isn't best selling until it passes ps2, regardless of how close they are. that's like saying ps3 is already ahead of 360

The Wii U is not doing "very poorly" at all. It's not doing nearly as good as the Wii or as good as Nintendo had hoped but it's doing far from "very poorly". It's doing pretty damn good considering it only has like 3 games. It had a 2D, first time HD mario game on launch, which is the biggest franchise in gaming history and nintendo's strongest asset. Plus, only the PS2 had more games at launch than WiiU



you sound a little butt hurt that Nintendo is going to have the best selling console of all time in the next couple of months.

 

Also the Wii U launched with about only 3-4 next gen games. It's doing pretty damn good I say


That's a pretty mature response from a primary school teacher 



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UncleScrooge said:

And how is the Wii U selling right now? I'm not talking about the launch sales. I'm talking full years on the market. Gamecube in 2001 (when it was released everywhere but Europe) did over 2m units (it did more than 1m in Japan alone). So its launch "year" was comparable to the Wii U. In 2002 and 2003 the Gamecube did roughly 5m units a year. That's what I'm talking about. Do you think the Wii U will keep up that holiday sales pace and double its LTD sales in the next 2 months? You can't just use holiday / launch sales and take that as the sales pace of a console. The Vita sold 300k units in its first week in Japan - should we just extrapolate that number to predict its yearly sales? The PS3 did 600k units in Europe first week - how did that develop? The Wii U is currently (!) on pace to do 150k units a month according to VGChartz. That's definitely not above Gamecube level.

I didn't say that the Wii U would sell another 2.5 million in the next two months. I said that you can't say "it's below the Gamecube, which sold 5 million a year for the first few years" because it's done half of that in its first two months - it's not unreasonable to expect it to manage the same amount in the remaining 10 months. The Wii U is currently selling 39k per week (what is it with you guys and lowballing every single number, when we have EXACT numbers available?). If it were to stay this low (very unlikely - every console has a slow period in the first few months after launch), it would have 43 weeks left at 39k per week, or 1.7 million. But of course, the year includes the early holiday period, which typically kicks in in October. And in the meantime, there's going to be bumps from Lego City Undercover, Rayman Legends, Wii Fit U, Game & Wario, The Wonderful 101, probably Wind Waker HD (assuming they're keeping Mario 3D for November, Wind Waker HD will probably be September), Pikmin 3, probably Bayonetta 2, Wii Party U, and possibly even Mario Kart U (assuming that Wind Waker is September and Mario 3D is November, Mario Kart U may be October), Monster Hunter Tri Ultimate, and Dragon Quest X in Japan (and possibly elsewhere), all of which are exclusives or effectively exclusives. Is there any doubt that these games are going to spur sales? And of course, that's not going to be the entire lineup for the Wii U for the next 10 months.

It's easy to judge a system based on a single week. It's funny how fickle people on here really are. There really is no reason to expect that the rate of sales in one week in January, the ONLY week so far to be below 50k, will be above the average for the remainder of the year. And what's worse, you and everyone else who goes "Wii U will only sell like 30k a week from now on" know this, too. You're just being intentionally obtuse, and it's childish.



Player1x3 said:
That's a pretty mature response from a primary school teacher

Ahhh, ad hominem. A wonderful reaction, Player1x3.



Aielyn said:
Player1x3 said:
That's a pretty mature response from a primary school teacher

Ahhh, ad hominem. A wonderful reaction, Player1x3.


When he actually presents an argument, im going to respond with one. ''Being butthurt'' is not an argument, Aielyn (whatever the hell that means)



May I remind you what happened with the PS2? Not sony made the games at the consoles end of life but SquareEnix etc did. So Nintendo as a game developer isnt treating the Wii different that Sony treated the PS2.

Nintendo is the main developer for its own systems and since they had a 3ds coming and a new console the Wii just lacked Nintendo support and without third parties giving a F*ck it had no games. Thats basic logic.

The 3ds is doing great. And the WiiU is out for 1 month in europe LOL. Sure its really stupid that from launch untill e3 there is like no big game (since Nintendo announced Mario MarioKart Smash Zelda etc. will be shown at e3 so not even one of those games will come out prior to e3)


Sure there is Pikmin 3 and game and wario but i dont care about those games. The WiiU had a rushed holiday season release without enough good games to play but its still in its launch year. (remember ps3?)



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Player1x3 said:
When he actually presents an argument, im going to respond with one. ''Being butthurt'' is not an argument, Aielyn (whatever the hell that means)

So call him out on the lack of an argument. Attack the absence of argument, not the person. You want his "lack of maturity" to stand out? Try responding in a highly mature manner, and let people see the difference.



Aielyn said:
Player1x3 said:
When he actually presents an argument, im going to respond with one. ''Being butthurt'' is not an argument, Aielyn (whatever the hell that means)

So call him out on the lack of an argument. Attack the absence of argument, not the person. You want his "lack of maturity" to stand out? Try responding in a highly mature manner, and let people see the difference.


My way is more witty !



UncleScrooge said:

I'm a Nintendo fan but I bash criticize every console that sells poorly. When the 3DS was unveiled I said it wouldn't sell and criticized for their mistakes. When the Vita sold horrible I pointed out how bad sales were, put them into perspective and called those out who said sales were alright. I'm doing the same now with the Wii U.

From my experience fans of any console will always defend it no matter how horribly it sells. People saying the Vita (and to some extend the Wii U) just need more time are just kidding themselves - both consoles are selling below Gamecube level. There's only so much a price cut can do (you can actually roughly calculate the effect of a price cut --> sales elasticity) and it's really hard to dig yourself out of a sales hole.

Edit: I used the word "bashing" wrong lol

If you honestly think Wii U's sales won't increase dramatically with arrival of software like Smash Bros and Mario Kart, then I think you severely underestimate the power of those IPs. Sales will pick up once the software arrives.



Player1x3 said:
TakeMeToTheHospital said:
Player1x3 said:
TakeMeToTheHospital said:
Player1x3 said:
TakeMeToTheHospital said:

The Wii is one of the best selling consoles of all time.  It only sold better than 1 PS console

The 3DS is selling better than the DS up to this point in it's life and the DS is the best selling console of all time.  Wrong. PS2 is still the king

The Wii U is selling better than the PS3 and 360 so far. Not if you include PS3's european launch

What are you talking about? The WiiU is doing very poorly 

 

Also the Wii U will do awesome once the games come rolling out. I'm a grade 3/4 primary school teacher and almost everyone of my students wants a Wii U. 




1) I said ONE of the best selling consoles of all time. Isn't it the 4th best selling console of all time?  i know you did. it still sold better than only 1 ps console 

2) You serious? the numbers are so close the DS is practically the best selling console if not already. You must have known what i meant?   ugh, what? PS2 is still ahead, the DS isn't best selling until it passes ps2, regardless of how close they are. that's like saying ps3 is already ahead of 360

The Wii U is not doing "very poorly" at all. It's not doing nearly as good as the Wii or as good as Nintendo had hoped but it's doing far from "very poorly". It's doing pretty damn good considering it only has like 3 games. It had a 2D, first time HD mario game on launch, which is the biggest franchise in gaming history and nintendo's strongest asset. Plus, only the PS2 had more games at launch than WiiU



you sound a little butt hurt that Nintendo is going to have the best selling console of all time in the next couple of months.

 

Also the Wii U launched with about only 3-4 next gen games. It's doing pretty damn good I say


That's a pretty mature response from a primary school teacher 

yeh thought so. Imposible to talk with a blind fanboy



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TakeMeToTheHospital said:
Player1x3 said:
TakeMeToTheHospital said:


That's a pretty mature response from a primary school teacher 

yeh thought so. Imposible to talk with a blind fanboy


This just keeps getting better and better ;D