Faxanadu said:
Maybe you should start reading the "Books" thread. |
haha I don't read :D
Faxanadu said:
Maybe you should start reading the "Books" thread. |
haha I don't read :D
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RCTjunkie said:
That begs the question where does it come from? Where is absolute morality come from? |
No, it doesn't. Morality actually precedes religion.
Besides, there's no such thing as what you call absolute morality. What's considered moral now may not be in a few decades, and vice versa. Although, some things are pretty basic, like murder and rape. I honestly can't be arsed to explain further, this vacation is so ralaxing...
Here if you want http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7xt5LtgsxQ
| RCTjunkie said: An honest question to those that say life has no purpose: What would you give as a reason for not doing awful crimes such as rape or murder if life ultimately has no purpose? |
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miz1q2w3e said:
No, it doesn't. Morality actually precedes religion. Besides, there's no such thing as what you call absolute morality. What's considered moral now may not be in a few decades, and vice versa. Although, some things are pretty basic, like murder and rape. I honestly can't be arsed to explain further, this vacation is so ralaxing... Here if you want http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7xt5LtgsxQ |
You can't claim that there is no absolute morality while calling some "pretty basic," thus giving a notion that it's wrong to rape or murder 100% of the time. It's not logical.
As for the video, it claims that morality comes from nature and empathy to create minimal suffering, but it's redefining "good" and "evil" as what is best for the human species. What moral obligation is there for a person to do what is best for the species in the grand scheme of things if life ultimately has no meaning? Just because?
Jay520 said:
Well, doing those acts would react in a negative reaction from the society. That's good reason for most people. That's why in societies that don't strongly frown upon those actions, rape & murder are more frequent. But almost all societies frown on unnecessary murder (for obvious reasons). So in almost all cases, the consequences of murder are good enough reason for most people. |
Although the answer to my question is addressed in the video miz1q2w3e posted, what about when society cheered for deaths and don't see murder or rape as moral issues? Is it okay, then?
Live long enough to create the next generation of children? Also, what Roma said: worship God and live a good life.


RCTjunkie said:
But there are genetic deficiencies all of the time that cause people to have a lack of sympathy for others. What makes those atrocities not okay if there's no reason to hold back? Why do we grieve over awful things that have no real meaning? |
Seems you are getting a little bit closer.
If people already knew(had a 100%proof) that there is a creator they wouldn't behave as they do,because they would manipulate themselve to get to paradise/nirvana.
As long as you don't know for sure what will be when you are gone you are free to decide to choose between righf or wrong without being manipulated by trying to achieve a reward.
As the universe had proven that there is always order out of chaos(galaxies,stars,planets out of dust,and you will find the same pattern on planet earth,in life )there is also order that drives humanity-we call it reason.
proof?You wouldn't even ask your question you are asking.You 'd be just trying to satisfy your ego,without ever thinking about answearing this thread.
SxyxS said:
Seems you are getting a little bit closer. If people already knew(had a 100%proof) that there is a creator they wouldn't behave as they do,because they would manipulate themselve to get to paradise/nirvana. As long as you don't know for sure what will be when you are gone you are free to decide to choose between righf or wrong without being manipulated by trying to achieve a reward. As the universe had proven that there is always order out of chaos(galaxies,stars,planets out of dust,and you will find the same pattern on planet earth,in life )there is also order that drives humanity-we call it reason. proof?You wouldn't even ask your question you are asking.You 'd be just trying to satisfy your ego,without ever thinking about answearing this thread. |
This doesn't answer why humans are morally obligated to follow reason and order without any meaning. As for the bolded, right and wrong being defined as "reason" is just a change in the terms, and again, never answers why there is an obligaton to follow the "order" precieved in the universe.
Correct me if I'm misinterpreting what you're saying...