ok it sounds a lot better, will it be any more in pricing?
ok it sounds a lot better, will it be any more in pricing?
Windows RT sucks, there's no reason to buy the RT Surface over an Android tablet.
That said the Windows 8 Pro Surface looks fantastic since it's a full PC on a tablet, and my $1000 is already prepared.

Soleron said:
You can't just assume another 1.1m like that. I doubt tablets other than the Surface sold at all. The major OEMs were extremely not on board with making or promoting them due to the $100 undercutting. Do you think Surface will have legs? There is no hype or awareness any more compared to Q4. There is more availability, but it would have to overtake at least one of the top four to be considered improved, and I see no compelling reason that it should. |
Why wouldn't I be able to assume all other OEM's have doubled microsoft sales?
Look at all the tablets users can buy at best buy in Canada - http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/category/windows-8-tablets/31040.aspx?path=b9391d439de4616a2eb60e2567176d38en01
This doesn't even include the HP, Dell and Lenovo offerings which I can get through their sites. I know a lot of people who bought the Asus VivoRT for example when it went on sale for 399 with free dock.
In terms of other OEM's, Acer has been bitching about windows 8 saying its not growing the market... but Asus, Lenovo, HP and Dell have all said good things about touch screen device penetration and have advertised Windows 8 all over Toronto Canada. I can show you the main subway intersection in toronto as it's plastered with Asus Windows 8 touch screen ads.
As far as Surface sales sustainability, it will not do gangbuster numbers. Microsoft isn't positioning it to sell below OEMs and to less more than a million per quarter. If they sold it for 399 with a keyboard we would see where the sales would be... But they want. It's an awareness device that is very much a 1.0 product. Once surface 2.0 and 3.0 come out, we will see what microsoft wants to do with it and if they decide to go after that market agressively.
Cause at least 1 > bad
Its to expensive and not good at all.
I mean M$ is something like a king in marketing - They can even sell low quality technology like Kinect with lies and promises(where is the fluent Uncharted gameplay etc they promised for release?) a sane person would never believe but it had to happen that they can't sell everything.Especially if they enter Apple territory.
disolitude said:
Why wouldn't I be able to assume all other OEM's have doubled microsoft sales? This doesn't even include the HP, Dell and Lenovo offerings which I can get through their sites. I know a lot of people who bought the Asus VivoRT for example when it went on sale for 399 with free dock. In terms of other OEM's, Acer has been bitching about windows 8 saying its not growing the market... but Asus, Lenovo, HP and Dell have all said good things about touch screen device penetration and have advertised Windows 8 all over Toronto Canada. I can show you the main subway intersection in toronto as it's plastered with Asus Windows 8 touch screen ads.
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Dell will surely be avoiding any android tablets once MSFT locks in its very small portion of the buyout.....smart move
dallas said:
Dell will surely be avoiding any android tablets once MSFT locks in its very small portion of the buyout.....smart move |
Dell said they are done with Android tablets and phones a year ago...
| dallas said: ok it sounds a lot better, will it be any more in pricing? |
That is, unfortunately, the only problem, as the starting price for it is $899 for the 64GB versoin, almost double the starting price of the iPad 4($499). However, the 64GB iPad 4 is priced at $699, which isn't too far away from the $899 of the Surface Pro, and does much less than the Surface Pro.

disolitude said:
Dell said they are done with Android tablets and phones a year ago... |
and when the deal clears, it will be locked-in to that promise. A statement of loyalty means jack squat bc things change all the time, come on now
dallas said:
and when the deal clears, it will be locked-in to that promise. A statement of loyalty means jack squat bc things change all the time, come on now |
I don't think Microsoft needs Dell to promise anything, writing or verbally, in terms of android. Dell determined that the race to the bottom with Android tablets and phones isn't profitable for them. It had nothing to do with Microsoft.
Chromebooks tho may be something Microsoft is worried about and this is where the microsoft financial aid may come in to play. Maybe the next surface will be made by Dell? :)
disolitude said:
I don't think Microsoft needs Dell to promise anything, writing or verbally, in terms of android. Dell determined that the race to the bottom with Android tablets and phones isn't profitable for them. It had nothing to do with Microsoft. Chromebooks tho may be something Microsoft is worried about and this is where the microsoft financial aid may come in to play. Maybe the next surface will be made by Dell? :) |
I think that MSFT would love for Dell's unquestioned loyalty, and the buyout would be one way to achieve that. Keep in mind that if the buyout were not realized and Windows8 did not pan out, then Dell would strongly be considering a move to android tablets. Also, are you saying that MSFT is worried by Dell making a chromebook or chromebooks taking a large chunk out of computing market share? You must be talking about the second possibiility bc you seem to be saying that MSFT already seems pretty assured about Dell's loyalty, even though you realize that loyalty in business only happens when there is a reason to be loyal