The difference is the size of the first-party studios and the second-party in favor to Sony.

I just find it weird how they point out the fact that these studios haven't made a single game. They are absolutely true; these studios haven't don't squat! But they are new, and they hold a great promise for the future, something quite a few seem to have failed to realize...

Kinect / Mobile / Kids studios (5):

Good Science Studio – Kinect Adventures, Kinect Fun Labs

Kids and Lifestyle Entertainment – Untitled Project

Microsoft Studios – Mobile Gaming – ilomilo

Soho Productions – Kinect Sesame Street TV

BigPark – Joy Ride series, Kinect Sports: Season Two

Studios working on Untitled projects (8):

Connected Experiences – Untitled Project – Design Large scale multiplayer title and help other first party studios

Microsoft Studios – Los Angeles – Untitled Project

Platform Next Studios – Untitled Project

Playful Learning – Untitled Project

Skybox Sports – Untitled Project

Press Play – Untitled Project[24]

Black Tusk Studios – Untitled Project

Microsoft Studios Victoria – Untitled Project

Removing the fluff, MS has 8 First Party studios that have produced hardcore games. That's a far cry from 21 listed.

Millennium Kitchen is a developer that makes the "My Summer Vacation" series. Another 1st party studio.

Clap Hanz isn't a very traditional 2nd party studio as I'm nearly certain that Sony, while not owning entirely, does have a significant ownership of the company.

After doing some digging, it becomes harder to figure who is who. The studios don't really divide themselves up anymore and there isn't much on them. Contrail is/was another studio that made Legend of Legaia and is just apart of Japan Studio. It's a myriad of 6-7 teams/studios that operate much like Square.

Well, if that's the criteria for being counted as a studio Nintendo is running dangerously low on them!! But I do I agree that the list you supplied doesn't seem to have 21 names in it... But you seem to have forgotten 343i and Lionhead...

I guess I might have =)

Two entirely different philosophies. Sony continually push the ten year lifecycle, so they continue to work on the PS3, while Microsoft have clearly moved all their resources to the 720. I believe Sony's strategy is better because it offers new franchises for the PS4 such as TLOU and Puppeteer. I think we'll probably still see some first party games for the PS3 in 2014 (the year the PS4 releases IMO).

On a side note, I think Kaz'z recent comment about waiting for the other studios to show their hand first wasn't because, as he said 'so that they can't copy us' it was to make MS think twice about releasing earlier, which feeds into helping the delay of their own console. It's a cat and mouse game that Sony play.

I also think that Nintendo have just offered Microsoft and Sony the perfect way of extending their consoles. Why develop games for the Wiiu only, when you could make them multiplat and offer them to a userbase of 145 million? This could help ALL concerned, so please don't view that as a negative for Nintendo.

Just something that I've noticed recently.  You make a comment and then repeatedly come back to the thread and quote people you disagree with or in this case are speaking as if you are the entire community.  Their is a lot of people that I've noticed in this thread asking questions or not know what they are talking about at all so just saying.  That is where he is coming from.  I can name specific people who has came in here all upset.  No where in the thread does it say one or the other is better.  It just shows they have studios and are working on games.  I decided to throw sony in their so you can get an idea of how many studios that actually is.  If I just made the title Microsoft has 21 studios there would be no discussion and nobody would care.  Throw sony in there and then people notice. Who knows, some of those studios may not do much at all, we know nothing about them but when people come in here defending sony saying they have quality studios compared to msft or things like that it does come off as being defensive.  I mean how do you know these studios wont be of quality.  

And i know I'm very controversial.  i don't expect people to like me.  You will either love me or hate me.  I get my point across though and i for the most part explain it more and better than probably 95% of the people on this website.  I also tend to throw in quite a bit of my own original research or completely original articles. So I expect people to disagree at times.  You act like I'm shocked that people disagree with me when im not.

This thread is about MS and Sony first party studios. Not Nintendo.

The list I supplied excludes the 8 first party studios that cranked out hardcore games - ie 343 and Lionhead.

Have you ever thought that some of those Sony owners want to see Microsoft make legit games outside of Halo, Forza and Fable? They are sick of the repetitive process (and so am I). I agree that people need to be patient for the 720 but I am hopeful that Microsoft pays more attention to their first party next gen because of how many studios they've created.