Holy shit mate <3

haha what do you think of what i said?

You mention Movie and list a few games yet no Metal Gear Solid 4? What the fuck? XD

What do you mean the right anolog stick changing the camera?  When i said camera view I mean the over the shoulder TPS view, the way the camera would shake as you ran etc lol Halo shaped FPS on consoles no doubt about that.

You mention that MW2's cinimatic approach wasnt as good and I agree.  I was just showing you that games had already been doing that all generation.  And really who does it as good as uncharted?  None that I can think of really.  

I mean we literally see 1 out of every three games use things from Gears and Call of Duty this generation.  Which is why those games come up a lot in these topics.  Uncharted wouldnt even be the same without gears and as much as I love uncharted the mechanics and gameplay from a coversystem and shooting mechanics was superior on gears, which has always been a common complaint among many gamers.  You are right though that Uncharted has the perfect blend of Cinimatics, platforming, puzzles, and TPS in it, but what other games follows this route?  What games uses the mechanics that Uncharted used or created?  That is what I've been asking because i cant think of any.  Uncharted is a lot like Tomb Raider and now Tomb Raider is a lot like uncharted so yes the new tomb raider looks to be influenced by uncharted but beyond that what other game has been influenced by uncharted?  I mean I can thank of a ton that uses the features made popular by gears and CoD this generation including Uncharted.  So if you can explain to me with example and other games then ill agree with you if that is fair? 

its really not about agreeing with me, its just that alot of people said uncharted inclduing my self had a lot of influence and i just wanted to explain why, after all this is a matter of opinion, it what you see as more influencial and more important. the perspitive of the camera in gears of war or the centamtic approach in uncharted for example, whats more important? what changed games more? it comes down to a matter of opinion

also i would like to point out that not just tomb raider was effected by uncharted because they have a similar art style, thats like saying gears only effected sci-fi shooters. the way that uncharted influenced other games cant really be seen directly like gears's. honestly games like assasins creed started adding these centimatic moments and trying to blend them in with gameplay like uncharted, so did resident evil6. have you played max payne3? remember that level where the building collapses? does the way it was made remind you of anything? alot of action games now have changed because of uncharted, the way they are made, people can argue that uncharted didnt effect them and had nothing to do with them, after all its all down to a matter of opinion. 

i think i said in my first post than uncharteds influence will still come in games to come in the future, the DOTS system opened doors in game development that other developers clearely didnt catch up with (with the exception of sony santa monica with GoW3, cronos boss fight to be more exact). uncharted did stuff that developers still didnt think that was possible, and were going to start seeing it in future games (hopefully!) like platformers,TPS, FPS, hack and slash because really it would benifit from it alot, developers just need the time to catch up with naughty dogs tech.

but as i said, its just a matter of opinion and what you see is more important and what changed the most is down to you, i just wanted to explain peoples point of view about uncharted even though i bet a lot of people didnt know about half the stuff i said

You're not alone in your thinking Banana, some of us just dont feel like arguing about what was more "innovative" xD.

Now if it was graphics or the game itself.. I'd make an effort XD

But yeah.. /Agree

its really not about agreeing with me, its just that alot of people said uncharted inclduing my self had a lot of influence and i just wanted to explain why, after all this is a matter of opinion, it what you see as more influencial and more important. the perspitive of the camera in gears of war or the centamtic approach in uncharted for example, whats more important? what changed games more? it comes down to a matter of opinion

also i would like to point out that not just tomb raider was effected by uncharted because they have a similar art style, thats like saying gears only effected sci-fi shooters. the way that uncharted influenced other games cant really be seen directly like gears's. honestly games like assasins creed started adding these centimatic moments and trying to blend them in with gameplay like uncharted, so did resident evil6. have you played max payne3? remember that level where the building collapses? does the way it was made remind you of anything? alot of action games now have changed because of uncharted, the way they are made, people can argue that uncharted didnt effect them and had nothing to do with them, after all its all down to a matter of opinion. 

i think i said in my first post than uncharteds influence will still come in games to come in the future, the DOTS system opened doors in game development that other developers clearely didnt catch up with (with the exception of sony santa monica with GoW3, cronos boss fight to be more exact). uncharted did stuff that developers still didnt think that was possible, and were going to start seeing it in future games (hopefully!) like platformers,TPS, FPS, hack and slash because really it would benifit from it alot, developers just need the time to catch up with naughty dogs tech.

but as i said, its just a matter of opinion and what you see is more important and what changed the most is down to you, i just wanted to explain peoples point of view about uncharted even though i bet a lot of people didnt know about half the stuff i said