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Should Sony have made Vita?

No 213 38.87%
 
I love it and hope they s... 272 49.64%
 
They should drop first party after this year 36 6.57%
 
They should drop first party after 3 years 17 3.10%
 
They should drop first party after 5 years 9 1.64%
 
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archbrix said:
TheBardsSong said:
Soundwave said:

Handheld gaming is dead, get over it.

No adult outside a vocal niche group of people on the internet would be caught dead carrying around a 3DS or Vita in public. It's the smartphone-age and you're living in it.

Nintendo gets by on their core IP and the fact that they own the kids market, which still gravitates to handhelds. And in Japan where people use their handheld as their main gaming device.

But thats about it.

Stop worrying about Vita. It never had a chance to begin with anyway.

If you are one of the very few people that have one, enjoy it for what it is. 



Oh my god, someone saw me in public playing a gaming handheld! I hope they don't think I'm not a whore of the smartphone loving media, because I totally am!

Yeah, I know what you mean.

I guess I'm past the age where I care what other people think in regards to something like that. In fact, I've actually had people express interest in what kind of system or game I was playing while using my 3DS in public - from kids to older adults... even a couple of attractive women.

 Yeah, every time I go out I see adults in their 20's with a 3DS including lawyers at the food court in Courhouses.

 

But I do see adults in their 30's & 40's with a PS Vita, as well as kids ages 8 to 10.

And the 5 & 6 year olds kids are asking their parents for PS Vita.

and all the 7 year olds want Christmas 2012 was the 360.

 

But yeah, I only see teenagers with a 3DS outdoors, as well as College Students.



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Kaizar said:

 Yeah, every time I go out I see adults in their 20's with a 3DS including lawyers at the food court in Courhouses.

 

But I do see adults in their 30's & 40's with a PS Vita, as well as kids ages 8 to 10.

And the 5 & 6 year olds kids are asking their parents for PS Vita.

and all the 7 year olds want Christmas 2012 was the 360.

 

But yeah, I only see teenagers with a 3DS outdoors, as well as College Students.

That's kind of funny. As for the teenager to college student age group (in the US) that would probably be because they are the "Sony hater" demographic that arose out of the Xbox Halo craze. Late Xbox and early Xbox 360 years drove these consumers away from PlayStation in spades.Of course this isn't scientifically examined.

Maybe once the next generation of gamers arrise Sony will do better. The past few years of PS3 has been pretty good for Sony and will have restocked their user base.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

it should have launched with a cheaper price



VITA 32 GIG CARD.250 GIG SLIM & 160 GIG PHAT PS3

It's fine. I like handheld gaming, and I like it more then home console gaming, so you know they should cancel the ps4 and focus on the vita because I'm a little brat. That's what I got from the OP, I mean really do you even give a shit about the people that own and enjoy the ps vita...obviously not.The OP is silly, Sony isn't putting even half the effort into the ps vita, so don't worry the ps3 and ps4 are getting most of the support...almost all 1st party games were made by smaller studios, not the big hitters anyway.



ECM said:
think-man said:
Without owning a vita people can't speak, I'm yet to meet someone who owns one and doesn't like it and people that try to say they have one and don't like it are just trolls.


So, basically, if you don't care for it, you can just shut the **** up? Have I got that about right?

(I have one and it's a pale shadow, game-wise, to the 3DS, nor am I remotely alone in this assessment, but it's good to know that our opinions don't count because we are not unequivocal in our praise!)


And I don't know a SINGLE person who owns one. LOL^_^



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coolguy said:
it should have launched with a cheaper price


The price is not the factor:

 

The PS Vita at $250 took 3 months to sale 1.2 million with that last 1 month also being in the west.

 

The 3DS at $250 took 1 month to sale 3.6 million with the last 1 to 6 days also being in the west.

 

So can people please stop misinforming people about price being a factor in these kinds of sitituation.

 

The PS3 launch 1 year after the 360 and at the highest price and sold 1.2 million in its first 6 months despite the 360 being there for a year, and Wii coming out about the same time.

The 360 launch in 2005 with being in the best position possible for a Microsoft Home Console and sold only 1.4 million in its first 6 months, when the PS3 as I said came out later with the Wii and still sold 1.2 million in its first 6 months despite the highest price.

 

As of now the PS Vita has only sold 4 million with 30,000 a week in global sales.

 

Plus to say the PS Vita has better graphics then the 3DS, is like saying the PS3 has better graphics then the 360.

There both true statements, but the gap isn't enough to be a deciding factor for 3rd party developers........remember that the 3DS gets an additional 15.3 million polygons from its GPU (PICA200) that adds to the 3DS CPU production of Polygons to its Hardware graphics. So the 3DS Polygon count clearly isn't that far from the PS Vita higher count to attract 3rd party by the better graphics to its actual extent.

The 3rd Party Developers actually have the Dev Kits to both the PS Vita & 3DS to know the actual difference in graphics & lighting & AI capabilities and it appearatly isn't as much of a gap if they are choosing the 3DS over the PS Vita, because these are the same Devs who always choose to make games for the PS3 & 360, but not the Wii........so clearly both the 3DS and of course Vita both blow the Wii away in every functionality without even trying.



^^^BWAHAHAHAHA



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

Kaizar said:
coolguy said:
it should have launched with a cheaper price

 

stuff


That post made my day. Thank you lol.

OP: If anything I wish Sony had never made PS3 to support Vita better. It is a much better system (I know apples and oranges and all).



Here's another reason why 3rd Party Devs won't make almost any games for the PS Vita:

Well I was bored and was looking at specs for the PSVita and 3DS doing comparison's and I came across something. The Vita uses a SGX543MP4+ model apparently clocked @200MHZ which is the max so far anyways. This is the exact same GPU as the Ipad 2 and Iphone 4s but the Iphone 4s use a dual core variant while the Vita uses a quad core variant. Well the 3DS uses a Pica 200 which not overclocked can be up to 400MHZ. We don't know what Nintendo is using though. When I did research the Ipad 2 and Iphone 4s was clocked at 68M triangles/s @200MHz. The PSVita had 133M triangles/s @200MHZ. The Ipad 2 and Iphone 4s's GPU triangles/s is around a Pica 200@150MHZ. The PSVita's is just above a Pica200@300MHZ. The Pica@400MHZ was quite a bit higher then the PSVita's in polygons. The rumoured 3DS GPU clock speed is a bit under 300 MHZ though but Nintendo can always update the 3DS and up it to 400MHZ if they want to. Sony did that to the PSP's CPU and raised the clock speed it from 222MHZ to 333MHZ. Anyways the Pica 200 actually isn't praised for it's amount of polys. It actually is praised for it's shaders how it can create such high quality shaders and lighting on par with HD consoles.

Anyways the Vita's GPU on the other hand doesn't seem to boast these extra shader features. I know the Vita does have a lot more RAM and the processing speeds are likely superior, but they don't effect gaming nearly as much as the GPU. The shaders though are far superior, so the shaders remain very impressive and on HD console levels. Anyways this doesn't really matter all that much, but I found it to be interesting that the 3DS actually has a more capable GPU then the all impressive PSVita.

Here's the wiki on the DMP Pica 200

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PICA200

Sorry guys & gals.



Kaizar said:

"that the 3DS actually has a more capable GPU then the all impressive PSVita."

OMG really? not even close at all

PICA200's basic OpenGL ES 1.1 support is the functional equivalent to DirectX 7+ ~ 8.0 GPUs, that was actually prominent in the PC market in 1999–2000, but OpenGL ES 1.1 extension pack and DMP's unique extensions (MAESTRO-2G) tweaks made graphics rendering on this fixed function IPC more akin to more contemporary DX9.0c ~ DX10.1 GPUs.

the SINGLE CORE PICA 200 is no where near the level of the PSVita's Quad Core SGX543MP4+ THAT IS 100% A FACT!.

 

The 3DS has much of it's internals housed in a SoC (System on Chip) just like it's predecessors. This is done to reduce build costs, cut down on power consumption, as well as make the PCB layout less complex and make the system harder to tamper with. The SoC, branded as the Nintendo 1048 0H, contains the CPU, GPU, DSP and VRAM.

According to official documents, the CPU used is a dual-core ARM11 CPU, clocked at 268MHz. One core is dedicated to system software, while the other is used for application programming, each known as the syscore and appcore, respectively.

 

As mentioned, DMP's (Digital Media Proffesionals) PICA 200, 268Mhz

http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Hardware

the Quad Core SGX543MP4+

Imagination's graphics IP cores now range from SGX520, the world's smallest OpenGL™ ES 2.0 mobile core, to SGX543MP16 for high-performance console and computing devices.

At 200MHz core frequency an SGX543MP4 (four cores) will deliver 133 million polygons per second and fill rates in excess of 4Gpixels/sec**. Higher frequencies or a larger number of cores each deliver more performance. At 400MHz core frequency an SGX543MP8 (eight cores) will deliver 532 million polygons per second and fill rates in excess of 16Gpixels/sec.

http://www.imgtec.com/news/release/index.asp?newsid=449

there is no d@mn contest  it is a fact that the single core PICA 200 THAT'S IN THE NINTENDO 3ds GPU  WITH IT'S

6 MB of dedicated GPU ram is no where near the level of the SGX543MP4+ WITH 128 MB of dedicated Video ram that's in the PSVita

example:

PowerVR’s Series5 (SGX) series feature pixel, vertex and geometry shader hardware. They suppport OpenGL 2.0 and DirectX 10.1 Shader Model 4.1. The SGX GPU is featured on many popular SoC (systems on chips). Apple A4 and Samsung Hummingbird SoC make use of the SGX GPU.

 

 

 



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