Gribble said:
Ckmlb1 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
dsgrue3 said:
That website is a joke. From the website itself:
Frank Probst, an information management specialist for the Pentagon Renovation Program, left his office trailer near the Pentagon's south parking lot at 9:36 a.m. Sept. 11. Walking north beside Route 27, the 6'2" Vietnam Veteran looked up, directly into the right engine of a 757 commercial airliner cresting the hilltop Navy Annex. It reached him so fast and flew so low that Probst dropped to the ground, fearing he'd lose his head to its right engine. "Had I not hit the deck, the plane would have taken off my head."Source
Do you realize the type of winds produced by the engines? It's equivalent to a hurricane. As the plane flew "over" him he would have been blown backward voilently and suffer extreme injuries or death.
"I did see airplane seats and a corpse still strapped to one of the seats."–Capt. Jim Ingledue, Virginia Beach Fire Dept.
Plane obliterated and body intact and strapped to the seat? LMFAO
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They seriously need to create a "Like" button on this site. Well done good sir!
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Yet, dsgrue doesn't provide any evidence for his claims... all he does is say "that site is a joke" and I'm suppose to be convinced by that?
So what is your take on the guys testimony? That it was a paid actor by the US government? Okay, so 104 people involved in the conspiracy so far and all are peons... this operation is getting very convoluted
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This huge conspiracy involving hundreds of people, killing thousands of people and not one leak from the government, not one person to tell the media for either feeling guilty or to make a buck, not one legitimate news channel or newspaper or magazine making the case, it's amazing how all powerful the US government is except they can't even cover up damn waterboarding or watergate scandal, but they can pull off the perfect operation coordinated fully and with not one person even anonymously leaking information out. Priceless.
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But it WAS full of holes and there were plenty of people that told the truth. Why the hell do you think the experts are calling for a full investigation? It was a mess from start to finish. Impossible scenario, towers falling against the laws of physics, disappearing plane, box cutter armed terrorists successfully overpower three planes and not one pilot hit the panic button, planes going off course and nothing was done, terrorist picked the perfect day to do it (when every plane was on training missions), Pentagon hit by passenger plane and made a small hole, no marks in the grass, witnesses saying they heard explosions but no one seemed to listen to them, firemen saying there was molten metal, but no one seemed to listen to them, tower falling from fire that was hit by nothing, evidence immediately sent to China, claiming there was no contingency plan for such an attack when there was, denying there was high temperatures when there was... It just goes on and on.
If you tried to make a movie out of the official report people would either laugh hysterically at it or walk out and ask for their money back.
For the last time, go here and watch these videos. Some are better than others but most of them have experts and footage to substantiate their claims:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/watch-online/
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You can get 'experts' that believe in anything. There's a university professor in Florida State University who is saying the Sandy Hook school shooting was faked by the government too. Can you actually give any proof of the conspiracy itself or any proof of the plan or those involved? All you are giving me is assumptions and you can line up more scientists who don't believe any of the theories you proposed. The Scientific American did an article on this years ago from the scientific perspective disproving the supposed science that prove the conspiracy:
I can't get the full article without paying money, but here is an excerpt for free on the theory of bombs in the WTC (which no one that worked there noticed miraculously):
In an article in the Journal of the Minerals, Metals, and Materials Society and in subsequent interviews, Thomas Eagar, an engineering professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, explains why: steel loses 50 percent of its strength at 1,200 degrees F; 90,000 liters of jet fuel ignited other combustible materials such as rugs, curtains, furniture and paper, which continued burning after the jet fuel was exhausted, raising temperatures above 1,400 degrees F and spreading the inferno throughout each building. Temperature differentials of hundreds of degrees across single steel horizontal trusses caused them to sag--straining and then breaking the angle clips that held the beams to the vertical columns. Once one truss failed, others followed. When one floor collapsed onto the next floor below, that floor subsequently gave way, creating a pancaking effect that triggered each 500,000-ton structure to crumble. Conspiricists argue that the buildings should have fallen over on their sides, but with 95 percent of each building consisting of air, they could only have collapsed straight down.
The people you claim are telling the truth have no witness accounts or any part (in the supposed conspiracy), all they have is casting doubt on evidence of who was behind it and how it was done and theories. Not a single one of these people have been able to prove anything to bring it to the media and convince people outside of conspiracy theorists.
As for the passengers not stopping them look at flight 93, the passengers brought the plane down that was heading to Washington DC. The passengers on the other planes not reacting? Had there ever been in the history of the world hijackings of passenger jets that were used as suicide planes? They thought they would be held hostage for ransom or some kind of demand and they did not want to risk their lives and their families' lives, pretty logical thinking if you don't know the planes are going to be crashed on purpose.