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PlaystaionGamer on 16 January 2013
kowenicki said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:

I too think this will be the last year for 1st party.


PSP late 2013 / early 14
360 mid to late 2015
PS3 late 2015 / early 2016


What big first party games are coming for 360 in 2013? Let alone 14 and 15


What's the relevance of that?  People buying a cheap console in 2013 and 2014 have literally hundreds of quality games to go at.

At this stage libraries sell consoles.  Multiplats are the big sellers in libraries.

Far too much emphasis is put in 1st party by fans. 


oh you are right its the backcatlogue now which i 100% agree on. However.. this thread is about 1st part support ending this year or how far you think it will in the future.. 


Which is why I said this year.  I think you mis-read my first post.


I do appolguise I did read it wrong 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 16 January 2013
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
bananaking21 said:
what 360 first party games are releasing this year?

Mostly XBLA related.


Most XBLA games aren't first party. They are second and third party, just like Gears.

Who cares? I know the thread title says specifically 1st party, but the overall gist of it is this might be the last year Sony/MS focus on their consoles. Even if its a 2nd or 3rd party title, as long as MS is securing it and/or publishing it, they're still focusing on the 360 with that release.


No special treatment, Microsoft doesn't get a pass.

Simple logic = special treatment?


First party is first party and whether its XBLA or not they haven't had nearly enough of it.

I dont know why your so anal about who actually is making the game. The idea of the thread is seeing when each company will stop supporting their console. Read between the lines in this thread and stop being so literal about it. Like we give a crap about 1st and 2nd party.

Whether MS makes it personally or not doesnt change that its on 360, not on PS3, and MS is putting in effort on 360.


Well Microsoft vowed at the beginning of the generation when Shane Kim was around that they would follow Sony to the end of their ten year plan. They wont be able to out support them. They dont have that kind of heart. 

Stop drinking the Sony kool aid. Please.

3rd parties and the media hub features will carry 360 from Nov 2013 and beyond.


What Sony cool aid? Sony created the ten year plan in the industry, they dont have to support the PS3 beyond a certain point but they might. Don't equate Microsofts level of game development with Sonys. You've been gaming long enough to know thats childs play whether you like Sony or not.



S.T.A.G.E. on 16 January 2013
PlaystaionGamer said:
sales2099 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:

I too think this will be the last year for 1st party.


PSP late 2013 / early 14
360 mid to late 2015
PS3 late 2015 / early 2016


What big first party games are coming for 360 in 2013? Let alone 14 and 15

I like that. In one word, you just swept XBLA under the rug. Nice job.

MS is actually smart to just rely on that now, leaving multiplats and 3rd party deals doing the rest of the work until Nov 2013 and beyond.

no Ms do a great job with XBLA but there not filling the shelfs in stores are they and making the mass market by a system.. The thread is about first party support going forward and apart from Gears (which i only just found out isnt 1st party) MS i dont think will release anythign else for the 360, which is on topic. in no way am i saying there support of XBLA doesnt matter because for the exsisting 360 owners who dont go next gen at first this will be ok for them. 


This argument is pointless, they know retail is truly what matters and they want to keep adding to Microsofts list because of exactly how much Microsoft lacks. They hail to the banner of Microsoft. I follow the games and follow the games and went to Microsoft when they had them and stopped focusing on them as much when they didn't. It's completely evident that Microsoft strategically make games, they dont just make them  because they are a gaming company. They didnt feel the need to have the 360 go out with a bang, plain and simple and those guys will use XBLA like a crutch as if it meant anything. Downloadable games with 90% be equal across platforms next gen and they will search for the next exclusive lineup to match Sonys retail by itself in numbers.



PlaystaionGamer on 16 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
sales2099 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:

I too think this will be the last year for 1st party.


PSP late 2013 / early 14
360 mid to late 2015
PS3 late 2015 / early 2016


What big first party games are coming for 360 in 2013? Let alone 14 and 15

I like that. In one word, you just swept XBLA under the rug. Nice job.

MS is actually smart to just rely on that now, leaving multiplats and 3rd party deals doing the rest of the work until Nov 2013 and beyond.

no Ms do a great job with XBLA but there not filling the shelfs in stores are they and making the mass market by a system.. The thread is about first party support going forward and apart from Gears (which i only just found out isnt 1st party) MS i dont think will release anythign else for the 360, which is on topic. in no way am i saying there support of XBLA doesnt matter because for the exsisting 360 owners who dont go next gen at first this will be ok for them. 


This argument is pointless, they know retail is truly what matters and they want to keep adding to Microsofts list because of exactly how much Microsoft lacks. They hail to the banner of Microsoft. I follow the games and follow the games and went to Microsoft when they had them and stopped focusing on them as much when they didn't. It's completely evident that Microsoft strategically make games, they dont just make them  because they are a gaming company. They didnt feel the need to have the 360 go out with a bang, plain and simple and those guys will use XBLA like a crutch as if it meant anything. Downloadable games with 90% be equal across platforms next gen and they will search for the next exclusive lineup to match Sonys retail by itself in numbers.

While I agree I won't go to far into this with you because il get banned again... I get band for breathing. 

Next gen il go to the platform, with the best exclusives and most diversity. That's why I go with Sony.if Microsoft U-turn from what they did this gen then il be first to buy the next Xbox. It's about the best games not the company behind them. 



sales2099 on 16 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
sales2099 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:

I too think this will be the last year for 1st party.


PSP late 2013 / early 14
360 mid to late 2015
PS3 late 2015 / early 2016


What big first party games are coming for 360 in 2013? Let alone 14 and 15

I like that. In one word, you just swept XBLA under the rug. Nice job.

MS is actually smart to just rely on that now, leaving multiplats and 3rd party deals doing the rest of the work until Nov 2013 and beyond.

no Ms do a great job with XBLA but there not filling the shelfs in stores are they and making the mass market by a system.. The thread is about first party support going forward and apart from Gears (which i only just found out isnt 1st party) MS i dont think will release anythign else for the 360, which is on topic. in no way am i saying there support of XBLA doesnt matter because for the exsisting 360 owners who dont go next gen at first this will be ok for them. 


This argument is pointless, they know retail is truly what matters and they want to keep adding to Microsofts list because of exactly how much Microsoft lacks. They hail to the banner of Microsoft. I follow the games and follow the games and went to Microsoft when they had them and stopped focusing on them as much when they didn't. It's completely evident that Microsoft strategically make games, they dont just make them  because they are a gaming company. They didnt feel the need to have the 360 go out with a bang, plain and simple and those guys will use XBLA like a crutch as if it meant anything. Downloadable games with 90% be equal across platforms next gen and they will search for the next exclusive lineup to match Sonys retail by itself in numbers.

Your stuck in the past. Downloadable games have been more prominent then they ever were. Id say Gears Ascension is going out with a bang.

You speak very matter-of-factly when your just spinning and guessing like the rest of us.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

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S.T.A.G.E. on 16 January 2013
PlaystaionGamer said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
sales2099 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:

I too think this will be the last year for 1st party.


PSP late 2013 / early 14
360 mid to late 2015
PS3 late 2015 / early 2016


What big first party games are coming for 360 in 2013? Let alone 14 and 15

I like that. In one word, you just swept XBLA under the rug. Nice job.

MS is actually smart to just rely on that now, leaving multiplats and 3rd party deals doing the rest of the work until Nov 2013 and beyond.

no Ms do a great job with XBLA but there not filling the shelfs in stores are they and making the mass market by a system.. The thread is about first party support going forward and apart from Gears (which i only just found out isnt 1st party) MS i dont think will release anythign else for the 360, which is on topic. in no way am i saying there support of XBLA doesnt matter because for the exsisting 360 owners who dont go next gen at first this will be ok for them. 


This argument is pointless, they know retail is truly what matters and they want to keep adding to Microsofts list because of exactly how much Microsoft lacks. They hail to the banner of Microsoft. I follow the games and follow the games and went to Microsoft when they had them and stopped focusing on them as much when they didn't. It's completely evident that Microsoft strategically make games, they dont just make them  because they are a gaming company. They didnt feel the need to have the 360 go out with a bang, plain and simple and those guys will use XBLA like a crutch as if it meant anything. Downloadable games with 90% be equal across platforms next gen and they will search for the next exclusive lineup to match Sonys retail by itself in numbers.

While I agree I won't go to far into this with you because il get banned again... I get band for breathing. 

Next gen il go to the platform, with the best exclusives and most diversity. That's why I go with Sony.if Microsoft U-turn from what they did this gen then il be first to buy the next Xbox. It's about the best games not the company behind them. 


Yep, once I stopped being an exclusive 360 gamer they took pleasure getting me banned every ten seconds. I agree, loyalty to a company over the games is a terrible reason to argue in the first place.



S.T.A.G.E. on 16 January 2013
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
sales2099 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:

I too think this will be the last year for 1st party.


PSP late 2013 / early 14
360 mid to late 2015
PS3 late 2015 / early 2016


What big first party games are coming for 360 in 2013? Let alone 14 and 15

I like that. In one word, you just swept XBLA under the rug. Nice job.

MS is actually smart to just rely on that now, leaving multiplats and 3rd party deals doing the rest of the work until Nov 2013 and beyond.

no Ms do a great job with XBLA but there not filling the shelfs in stores are they and making the mass market by a system.. The thread is about first party support going forward and apart from Gears (which i only just found out isnt 1st party) MS i dont think will release anythign else for the 360, which is on topic. in no way am i saying there support of XBLA doesnt matter because for the exsisting 360 owners who dont go next gen at first this will be ok for them. 


This argument is pointless, they know retail is truly what matters and they want to keep adding to Microsofts list because of exactly how much Microsoft lacks. They hail to the banner of Microsoft. I follow the games and follow the games and went to Microsoft when they had them and stopped focusing on them as much when they didn't. It's completely evident that Microsoft strategically make games, they dont just make them  because they are a gaming company. They didnt feel the need to have the 360 go out with a bang, plain and simple and those guys will use XBLA like a crutch as if it meant anything. Downloadable games with 90% be equal across platforms next gen and they will search for the next exclusive lineup to match Sonys retail by itself in numbers.

Your stuck in the past. Downloadable games have been more prominent then they ever were. Id say Gears Ascension is going out with a bang.

You speak very matter-of-factly when your just spinning and guessing like the rest of us.


Downloadable games are not a seller of consoles, its a perk because they can be found anywhere. People buy consoles majorly because of the retail titles. You're dragging this out at will, when you know exactly what the place of downloadables. Journey and Walking Dead were high nominees for game of the year and still people dont see a downloadable as a console seller. The game of the year however is available on both HD consoles. My only speculation is on what Sony will do with their ten year plan. Microsoft will follow them like a good little boy.



J_Allard on 17 January 2013

It's more like fanboys who hate MS try to discredit downloadable games because they know MS has a huge advantage over Sony and Nintendo in that category. I don't know why you're talking about the sales importance of downloadable games, that isn't relevant to the thread discussion at all. The thread is about continuing to support the 360 and PS3. MS has always been huge on XBLA games. They will continue to show that support. They will continue to dominate the competition in that area. So, naturally, you will continue to devalue downloadable games. What does your opinion over how much weight new buyers put into XBLA games matter? One way or another, it doesn't change the fact that the support is there.

As for Sony creating the 10 year plan.. nah. Nintendo already did it twice with the NES and Game Boy. It's incredibly easy to do when you have a dominant console that people will support for 10 years. That's the key part, it has to be something people are willing to support for 10 years. You can't just say "we have a 10 year plan!". Sony said that at the start of the gen, but I am sure being in 3rd place entering 2013 and losing all the money the PS2 brought in weren't part of that plan so who knows if they can still make it.

The Xbox didn't even break 25 million IIRC. It was losing MS a lot of money and not many people were buying it so they focused on next gen. Are they really copying anyone (you incorrectly say Sony), by supporting the system longer or are just simply enjoying a longer generation cycle because they now have a console people will actually continue to buy and support? It's not rocket science.



sales2099 on 17 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
sales2099 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:

I too think this will be the last year for 1st party.


PSP late 2013 / early 14
360 mid to late 2015
PS3 late 2015 / early 2016


What big first party games are coming for 360 in 2013? Let alone 14 and 15

I like that. In one word, you just swept XBLA under the rug. Nice job.

MS is actually smart to just rely on that now, leaving multiplats and 3rd party deals doing the rest of the work until Nov 2013 and beyond.

no Ms do a great job with XBLA but there not filling the shelfs in stores are they and making the mass market by a system.. The thread is about first party support going forward and apart from Gears (which i only just found out isnt 1st party) MS i dont think will release anythign else for the 360, which is on topic. in no way am i saying there support of XBLA doesnt matter because for the exsisting 360 owners who dont go next gen at first this will be ok for them. 


This argument is pointless, they know retail is truly what matters and they want to keep adding to Microsofts list because of exactly how much Microsoft lacks. They hail to the banner of Microsoft. I follow the games and follow the games and went to Microsoft when they had them and stopped focusing on them as much when they didn't. It's completely evident that Microsoft strategically make games, they dont just make them  because they are a gaming company. They didnt feel the need to have the 360 go out with a bang, plain and simple and those guys will use XBLA like a crutch as if it meant anything. Downloadable games with 90% be equal across platforms next gen and they will search for the next exclusive lineup to match Sonys retail by itself in numbers.

Your stuck in the past. Downloadable games have been more prominent then they ever were. Id say Gears Ascension is going out with a bang.

You speak very matter-of-factly when your just spinning and guessing like the rest of us.


Downloadable games are not a seller of consoles, its a perk because they can be found anywhere. People buy consoles majorly because of the retail titles. You're dragging this out at will, when you know exactly what the place of downloadables. Journey and Walking Dead were high nominees for game of the year and still people dont see a downloadable as a console seller. The game of the year however is available on both HD consoles. My only speculation is on what Sony will do with their ten year plan. Microsoft will follow them like a good little boy.

J_Allard pretty much said it all. Were not talking in terms of system sellign....were talking support, and bringing quality games. You can't deny that with phones and tablets, downloadable games have risen in relevance over the years. Minecraft 360 sales are a beast....they were higher then COD for a week or two in player count.

I think your clearly deluded as to which corporation is the others b!t%h in the real world. 360 can do a 10 year plan because they earned it, not because they are "copying" Sony, which is a very ignorant way of putting it.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

S.T.A.G.E. on 18 January 2013
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
sales2099 said:
PlaystaionGamer said:
kowenicki said:

I too think this will be the last year for 1st party.


PSP late 2013 / early 14
360 mid to late 2015
PS3 late 2015 / early 2016


What big first party games are coming for 360 in 2013? Let alone 14 and 15

I like that. In one word, you just swept XBLA under the rug. Nice job.

MS is actually smart to just rely on that now, leaving multiplats and 3rd party deals doing the rest of the work until Nov 2013 and beyond.

no Ms do a great job with XBLA but there not filling the shelfs in stores are they and making the mass market by a system.. The thread is about first party support going forward and apart from Gears (which i only just found out isnt 1st party) MS i dont think will release anythign else for the 360, which is on topic. in no way am i saying there support of XBLA doesnt matter because for the exsisting 360 owners who dont go next gen at first this will be ok for them. 


This argument is pointless, they know retail is truly what matters and they want to keep adding to Microsofts list because of exactly how much Microsoft lacks. They hail to the banner of Microsoft. I follow the games and follow the games and went to Microsoft when they had them and stopped focusing on them as much when they didn't. It's completely evident that Microsoft strategically make games, they dont just make them  because they are a gaming company. They didnt feel the need to have the 360 go out with a bang, plain and simple and those guys will use XBLA like a crutch as if it meant anything. Downloadable games with 90% be equal across platforms next gen and they will search for the next exclusive lineup to match Sonys retail by itself in numbers.

Your stuck in the past. Downloadable games have been more prominent then they ever were. Id say Gears Ascension is going out with a bang.

You speak very matter-of-factly when your just spinning and guessing like the rest of us.


Downloadable games are not a seller of consoles, its a perk because they can be found anywhere. People buy consoles majorly because of the retail titles. You're dragging this out at will, when you know exactly what the place of downloadables. Journey and Walking Dead were high nominees for game of the year and still people dont see a downloadable as a console seller. The game of the year however is available on both HD consoles. My only speculation is on what Sony will do with their ten year plan. Microsoft will follow them like a good little boy.

J_Allard pretty much said it all. Were not talking in terms of system sellign....were talking support, and bringing quality games. You can't deny that with phones and tablets, downloadable games have risen in relevance over the years. Minecraft 360 sales are a beast....they were higher then COD for a week or two in player count.

I think your clearly deluded as to which corporation is the others b!t%h in the real world. 360 can do a 10 year plan because they earned it, not because they are "copying" Sony, which is a very ignorant way of putting it.


I am not deluded, you just havent been paying attention. A lot of Microsofts success this gen has been attributed to using the strengths Sony already had. 

- Major third party support

- Multimedia focus

- Ten year plan (Including support for trilogies which would normally span around seven years)

"Sony has already gone on record that it has a "ten year plan" for the PS3, so it's not entirely surprising that Microsoft is also planning for the long haul with Xbox 360."

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/188943/kim-confident-360-will-last-7-years/