The PS3 and 360 are on their last legs and they will have more valuable games walking out of this gen, so yes the core will still value them from a quarterly perspective and the late adopter will as well. Whether its about graphics or not is really and truly up to the eyes of the beholder and realizing its lasting value. Sony and Microsoft know that their next consoles will have an uphill battle when it comes to price because they are following the third parties desires to have more powerful tech to change the way we play and the vastness of the worlds we'll exist in.

Microsoft as far internal game development value needs to bow out desperately and Sony does as well to make sure their marketshare grows (because of course Microsoft wants Sonys marketshare). Their consoles will realistically be around $400 to $500 and yes, there still is a market to buy these products. Remember the consoles serve more than just a gaming purpose but also a multimedia purpose. Lets see what they innovate on this next gen front to not only get the core but the masses to believe.

im a very loyal Nintendo fan, and i couldnt be happier with their Wii core games What does make you feel that way?

Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword were not good Zelda games, and they were dumbed down pretty hard. Metroid Prime 3 was alright, but lacked exploration/ it was more of a shooter than an adveture. Metroid Other M is absolutely atrocius. No Star Fox or F-Zero. No Pikmin. Super Paper Mario was extremely disappointing coming of Thousand Year Door. Brawl was worse than Melee. NSMBWii was uninspired. 

The Galaxy games and DKCR were excellent, but really, besides those, I didn't LOVE anything on the Wii. 

except for ZeldaSS which i think its great and original, i agree to an extent, gameplay wise Brawl and Corruption dont match the awesomness of their GC counterparts but what about Mario kart, Excitetruck, Xenoblade, Disaster, Kirbys Dreamland and EpicYarn, Batallion wars2... imho Nintendo delivered, its just that GC was too awesome!!!

MKWii was alright, excitetruck was more on the Meh side of things. 

I will give you Xenoblade though.

I have no problem with Nintendo being protective of its and its desire to appeal to the family and amateur gamers. I just wish Nintendo would realize it can develop/publish "mature" games without taking any sort of hit to its family image whatsoever.It published Eternal Darkness, Geist and Perfect Dark without taking a single hit. Remember it also helped fund and marketConkers Bad Fur Day; that game practically leans on the M/AO rating!

I'm not crying for Nintendo to suddenly make Mario cap people in the head in first person or Link pick up Hylian hookers and use swear words, but I just wish it would pull more Bayo 2's where it swoops in and picks up a game we all want without worrying about blood and cleavage levels.

-Really don't see where you got the GameCube being half-hearted  because of Super Mario Sunshine. Sure, it was based on a gimmick that came out of nowhere and felt awkard at times, but it's not like the game itself was neither fun nor original nor polished. Mario 64-2 sounds like it would be a lot more half-hearted.

-Look at what Rare has done post-Ninty vs. pre-Ninty. It sure seemed dumb at the time it sold Rare, but I think we'd all agree Nintendo knew what it was doing in the long run. And I think most of us would agree Retro is a worthy replacement to Rare. It just doesn't seem to have nearly as much freedom to do its own thing. Nintendo originally tried to replace Rare with Silicon Knights, but that didn't work out (I'd again say Nintendo came out on top in that decision too).

bolded the keyword.  they publish a game, as in one, uno, less than two. 

hardcore gamers buy a lot of games, like 15 or more a year.  not one a generation, not even just one a year.  so nintendo,.. not really catering to the core.  not when they miss out on GTA, bioshock, crysis 3, dark souls 2, dead space 3, watch dogs, metal gear, south park, and all those other games with a red X just this year...  oh, and let's not forget nintendo leaving out damn obvious OS features like cross game chat and a unified trophy system.

you're being foolish nintendo fan if you think nintedo has put any substance into courting the core.  so yeah, i agree with you... nintendo should go back to courting the casual exclusively.  i think it will still put them on the road to obsurity as that audience is even harder to please and just as likey to dimiss nintendo ...but at least nintendo has a chance.  but you are absolutly right about nintendo lacking the talent to make games or a system the core wants.

but don't try pull any this whiny "oh its everyone else's fault" BS.    the core are very demanding customers and nintendo's "let's the to bare minimum to get by" approach will not work.

People didnt abandon Nintendo New users didnt embrace Nintendo thnx to Sonys moneyhatting

Nintendo designs their console for their own franchise in mind.