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Fireforgey said:
Cub said:
Fireforgey said:

To make a long story short (and for the record I'm not Christian so I can't speak on their behalf) But what they idea about being Gay or Bi-Sexual ect... Is not "not being attracted". As you said you have no control over sexual attraction. However, the idea is that it is a test to see whether you will give in to those desires and have sex with someone of the same gender or whether you will wait to marry the opposite gender. The thing is, I don't make much distinction between those who have extra marital sex and those who are gay AND AND ACTUALLY PRACTICE THEIR SEXUAL DESIRES . These are both people who can't resist any kinds of urges. I don't hate them in any way, but I believe that what they are doing is wrong.

I think the debate that Christians have turned the gay issue into a matter of choice and not choice hurts the whole argument. Being attracted to something is not a choice, acting upon that attraction is something entirely different.'

And for those who say that if you are attracted to the same gender but don't actually act on it is denying who you truly are, I have to ask them one question. If I don't hump every girl that I meet that I am attracted to, am I being "not true to myself"? After you have religion and the belief that doing something like that is wrong, the choice is up to you. Shall I try to restrain my desires for the sake of what I believe is a godly good. Or should I do the thing that makes me most satisfied.

THAT is the choice that everyone has to make albeit about different matters, subjects, tests ect....

You will end up with a girl , so if you are a muslim you will restrain your desires until you get married and you won't have to hump every other girl, cuz you will get what you want eventually and you will please your god, that's easy but... How is that comprable to restraining yourself until you die (in case you were gay)? it's not!

Oh man, that's an easy one.  What if you're straight and marry a woman you're not attracted to.  Each person has their test in life.  I personally beleive that they are all in one way or another comparrable.  And if it's not in attraction, its in money, disease, family issues, stealing ect....That's my belief anyhow.

Why would anyone do that.....

first, You think a straight guy who is denying himself the pleasure of sleeping with every woman he wants to (and who is, however, given the choice to marry 4 women simultaneously and own some if he wants to) is in a similar position to a gay guy. 

Then you come up with a scenario where the straight guy ends up with a woman he is not attracted to just to tell me that's simlar to a gay guy who can't get any godly approved human intimacy... OK!

You are forgetting few things that i've already mentioned, like even if we assume he ended up somehow with a woman he doesn't find attractive, there are Halal options like divorce, polygamy and more... 



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I didn't choose to be straight any more than I chose to be a male, short and white.

Choice has absolutely no aspect over sexuality and attraction. If it did, we'd all choose the easiest means of finding a mate with the least amount of social disapproval. Better stated, we choose the aspects that generate the least amount of stress.


Nobody thinks, "I want to make my life a living hell so I'm going to be attracted to 1,000 lb, dog faced, Harlequin suffers of the same sex." Sexual attraction is instinctual.



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Majora said:
Actually the primary reason was consolidation of wealth and assets. It also gave people rights should a marriage go awry.

Regardless of that, things change to accommodate changes. That's how the world works - we need change.

Also if marriage is so sacred to straight people, why are a lot of them breaking down? Why are there so many affairs? Why, why, why? We could be asking questions all day. I'd like some of the idiots on here to have their rights taken away for a single day. Maybe then they could appreciate all the 'whining'. It's a sad world where people have to whine to be treated as equals.


The reason the family structure is collapsing is due to ill-advised progressive policies of the 1950s and 1960s that eliminated boundries to divorce and created social programs to support children out of marriage. The politicians that supported these changes argued that it was moronic to assume that these changes would result in a high divorce rate, or that it would translate into an epidemic of children being raised in single parent households.



HappySqurriel said:
Majora said:
Actually the primary reason was consolidation of wealth and assets. It also gave people rights should a marriage go awry.

Regardless of that, things change to accommodate changes. That's how the world works - we need change.

Also if marriage is so sacred to straight people, why are a lot of them breaking down? Why are there so many affairs? Why, why, why? We could be asking questions all day. I'd like some of the idiots on here to have their rights taken away for a single day. Maybe then they could appreciate all the 'whining'. It's a sad world where people have to whine to be treated as equals.


The reason the family structure is collapsing is due to ill-advised progressive policies of the 1950s and 1960s that eliminated boundries to divorce and created social programs to support children out of marriage. The politicians that supported these changes argued that it was moronic to assume that these changes would result in a high divorce rate, or that it would translate into an epidemic of children being raised in single parent households.


I think that's rubbish but ok.



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Here's a nice sexuality test. Smother your balls in cottage cheese and get a dog to lick it off. If you get a boner you're into bestiality. My condolences for those that get an erection.



JoeTheBro said:
1 No
2 No

I think we are naturally straight yet manipulated to be gay through early life. See it's kinda like drinking. A kid drinks alchohol and thinks "what the fuck is this shit, why the hell do you drink such trash?" It's only as we learn from society that liquer is good do people actually enjoy drinking it. This sounds weirder than I expected.

This. I think Joe has a good explanation. Early life experiences mold who we are. Preference isn't a choice, in the sense that "Oh, I'll have lunch at Wendy's today" is a choice. Sexual preference isn't some kind of spontaneous choice. It's psychological. I know some people who have had their orientation changed from gay to straight through converting to Christianity. 

This isn't what I personally think, but I think a Christian might say that gay people are misguided; it is a mistake, and we all make mistakes. They view it as a sin, just like stealing and adultery. 



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HappySqurriel said:
fordy said:

Way to miss the point...

How is the birth relevant to the household a child grows up in?

I think you missed the point ...

If marriage is about providing the best outcomes for children doesn't it have to be proven that gay couples can provide similar or better outcomes for children before you claim that they can be married?


Then allow me to ask you the following question:

If it is proven by several unbiased studies that children raised by gay couples are more likely to have a better outcome than those raised by straight couples, would you want to ban straight people from getting married while only supporting gay couple marriages? Would you change your stance based on those studies?



JoeTheBro said:
1 No
2 No

I think we are naturally straight yet manipulated to be gay through early life. See it's kinda like drinking. A kid drinks alchohol and thinks "what the fuck is this shit, why the hell do you drink such trash?" It's only as we learn from society that liquer is good do people actually enjoy drinking it. This sounds weirder than I expected.

What about gay people who've grown up in incredibly homophoabic and hostile environments? There's no way they could be "manipulated" into being gay after having the sinfulness and shame and disgust of homosexuality shoved down their throats for years as a child.



1. Yes
2. Yes

I choose to be straight, because I love women partners. Most gay men I know tend to be quiet selfish which is a big turn off. Any man can become aroused by watching gay porn if they were to ease up on the emotional barriers they've erected (excuse the pun). Getting rid of a erection must surely be a skill all men possess???