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Mazty on 07 January 2013
KHlover said:
Mazty said:
Aielyn said:
Mazty said:
Companies aren't people; they don't get "mad" at one another. One thing drives companies - money. Simply put, there are not enough users of the Wii U to warrant making a port.

I've said it before, but some seem to have trouble comprehending it...

A company that looks at the current install base and judges their decisions based purely on that is backwards-thinking and on their way to bankruptcy. Companies must look at future potential, competition, and potential fanbase. Games sell on systems because developers and publishers develop fanbases on those systems. It is not enough to just throw a game at a system with a high install base, you have to make people want your games on the system. And the argument of "there's no interest in the game on that system" is just as ludicrous, because lack of interest comes from lack of support, not the other way around.

In short, if any company thinks the way you do, then they're going to get decimated by the next generation.

Meanwhile, we know they were already working on the port, that porting games to Wii U is relatively cheap, and that there aren't that many shooting games on the Wii U, while the PS3 and 360 have a glut of them to compete against. EA have proven time and again that they don't actually understand gaming, and that's why the only way they ever make a profit is by buying out successful developers... who, after a few years, end up becoming crap, at which point EA has to buy out more developers. Fortunate for Crytek that they're just partners with EA, not owned by them.


That's rediculous. A company looks at a market of 140+ million consoles. The Wii U isn't even 2% of that market. It simply isn't profitable to make the exact same game for the Wii U as it is for the PS3 and 360. Also they probably realise that if someone wants Crysis 2, they already own either a PS3 or 360, and therefore developing for the Wii U isn't profitable. 

We've yet to see any future potential from the Wii U - where is it's PGR3? Until it truly defines itself as an 8th gen console and sets itself apart from the 360/PS3, it will be directly compared to the 360/PS3 in everyway - customers, potential, lifespan. 

 

freebs2 said:
Mazty said:
KHlover said:
EA is still mad at Nintendo? Way to go -_-


lolwut

Companies aren't people; they don't get "mad" at one another. One thing drives companies - money. Simply put, there are not enough users of the Wii U to warrant making a port. 

lolwut

I'd like to see if EA will ever decide to renounce porting a new game on Ps4/Xbox3 beacuse there aren't enough users on of them.

 

If the PS4/Nextbox show proper 8th gen potential, then actually we may see very little ports to them as publishers will realise that if someone has a nextbox, they probably already own a 360. This was not the case with the Xbox or GC due to much lower install bases, therefore it was quite reasonable to presume someone with a 360/PS3 may not actually have another console. 

 

 

KHlover said:
Mazty said:
KHlover said:
EA is still mad at Nintendo? Way to go -_-


lolwut

Companies aren't people; they don't get "mad" at one another. One thing drives companies - money. Simply put, there are not enough users of the Wii U to warrant making a port. 

If so, why does Google block GMaps on Windows Phone? Why does Samsung stop producing new chips for Apple? Companies are still led by people and thus CAN be mad at each other.

 

It's called market competition.....Google blocks a popular service in order to boost android sales. Samsung stops producing chips to increase Galaxy sales. This is basic economic competition and absolutely nothing to do with anger. 

 


Yeah, Apple suing Samsung over 1bn had nothing to do with it...


*facepalm*
Apple is the MAIN COMPETITOR TO SAMSUNG. Being able to screw your competition out of $1,000,000,000 seems a worthwhile move. Companies don't get moody - they are not humans. Why on earth are people humanising companies?



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Cobretti2 on 07 January 2013

Some of the comments here in the last hour are just amazing. Even though people presented actual facts of EA being butt hurt people still in denial about it.

Explain to me how EA and Nintendo went from being BEST BUDS with all those co presentations and undying support for each other and almost religious praises for the WiiU to "lack of business drive"?

All i can say is that a blind person bleed from his eyes tonight knowing that people with working eyes are much more blind than him.




 

 

Mr Khan on 07 January 2013
Mazty said:
Mr Khan said:

Mazty said:

Companies are not malicious. Greedy? Yes. Malicious? Where's the profit in that? Saying a company is malicious is rediculously humanising the issue. As I said above, with the wii u not even being 2% of the market and with it showing very little improvement over the 360 and PS3 (technically) then paying to have a team learn how to dev for the wii u and port the game just isn't going to be profitable. 

If it's not worth learning now, it will never be worth learning, which means third parties will once again be down a "viable" platform, and "forced" to hash it out in a shrunken, super-competitive space.

Yeah. Exactly. That's probably the literal calculation that these publishers have done, hence the lack of ports. It will only be a viable platform when it becomes a large percentage of the 8th generation, and so far a) it's yet to show itself as 8th gen and b) it's less then 2% of the 7th gen. If the rumours of PS4 and Nextbox dev kits are true, then these publishers probably know something that we don't.

If they're as comparatively high-powered at launch as PS3 and 360 were, then we're going to see the same kind of killing field for 3rd parties that 2007-2009 was, except with no super-easy Wii casual games to bail them out (no more high carnival games sales to bail out Take Two, for instance). Which'll make the slaughter that much worse.



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Mr Khan on 07 January 2013
Cobretti2 said:
Some of the comments here in the last hour are just amazing. Even though people presented actual facts of EA being butt hurt people still in denial about it.

Explain to me how EA and Nintendo went from being BEST BUDS with all those co presentations and undying support for each other and almost religious praises for the WiiU to "lack of business drive"?

All i can say is that a blind person bleed from his eyes tonight knowing that people with working eyes are much more blind than him.

Exactly. We have no proof of what the major falling-out was, but there is ample proof that a major falling-out between EA and Nintendo occurred, and given that Nintendo isn't going to do anything to actively push away third parties (might not kowtow for favors they shouldn't have to pay for, but they're not going to actively repulse them either), then it would have to be EA's fault.



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sethnintendo on 07 January 2013

EA is right. When was the last time EA had a business drive? If they did then they would have posted a profit at some point in the past few years.



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_mevildan on 07 January 2013

At least they are saying it's for business reasons. Considering Crytek is all tech and no game I have been wating for them to knock on the WIi U hardware as a reason for their being no Wii U version.



Train wreck on 07 January 2013
sethnintendo said:
EA is right. When was the last time EA had a business drive? If they did then they would have posted a profit at some point in the past few years.

They did.  Last year.

With no nintendo help I might add.



sethnintendo on 07 January 2013
Train wreck said:
sethnintendo said:
EA is right. When was the last time EA had a business drive? If they did then they would have posted a profit at some point in the past few years.

They did.  Last year.

With no nintendo help I might add.

For the entire year or just a quarter?



KungKras on 07 January 2013
Mazty said:


*facepalm*
Apple is the MAIN COMPETITOR TO SAMSUNG. Being able to screw your competition out of $1,000,000,000 seems a worthwhile move. Companies don't get moody - they are not humans. Why on earth are people humanising companies?

Well, because, the people who control those companies can be both moody and irrational.



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Train wreck on 07 January 2013
sethnintendo said:
Train wreck said:
sethnintendo said:
EA is right. When was the last time EA had a business drive? If they did then they would have posted a profit at some point in the past few years.

They did.  Last year.

With no nintendo help I might add.

For the entire year or just a quarter?


for fiscal year 12 (ended March 31) they made 76 million dollars.