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Mr Khan said:
mai said:

Could anybody translate "lack of business drive" from business English to regular English?

EA's still sad and butthurt that Nintendo didn't pay them to use Origin as the basis for Wii U's online.


Companies don't get "butthurt". It's not as if this is the only multiplatform not to be coming to the Wii U. 



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Well EA did the same thing to Sega with no games on the Dreamcast, lets just hope EA goes bankrupt.



 

Mazty said:
z101 said:
Mazty said:
KHlover said:
EA is still mad at Nintendo? Way to go -_-


lolwut

Companies aren't people; they don't get "mad" at one another. One thing drives companies - money. Simply put, there are not enough users of the Wii U to warrant making a port. 


It is naive to think that company decisions only based on facts and "where the money is". They are made by people. And people could be huffish or angry.

Fact is that EA wanted Nintendo to make Origin the only Wii U shop system. But Nintendo refused. Some people at EA are surely mad about Nintendo. 

Actually that's incredibly naive to think that management of such companies get "huffish" and would make decisions which would make the lose money because two things keep them in check:

a) profits and
b) stock holders

EA will be dissapointed that Origin isn't the store on the Wii U, but that isn't going to make them take adopt a juvenile attitude towards Nintendo. Big business doesn't work like that and ultimately this also is hardly the first case of a multiplat not being ported to the wii u. I think making out it's just EA having an attitude problem is Wii U owners trying to sugar coat a more serious issue. 

Then explain why EA tried to bully Sega into making them the only sports game maker on the Dreamcast and outright refused to make games for it when they didn't get their way (NFL2k outsold madden that year) And explain why Trip Hawkins were so mad when the investors forced him to make games for the NES that he threw his shoe (or was it chair) at the meeting table.



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Mazty said:
Mr Khan said:
mai said:

Could anybody translate "lack of business drive" from business English to regular English?

EA's still sad and butthurt that Nintendo didn't pay them to use Origin as the basis for Wii U's online.


Companies don't get "butthurt". It's not as if this is the only multiplatform not to be coming to the Wii U. 

Read some of KungKras' posts. EA has a history of bullying and generally being a bunch of brats.



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Aielyn said:
Mazty said:
Companies aren't people; they don't get "mad" at one another. One thing drives companies - money. Simply put, there are not enough users of the Wii U to warrant making a port.

I've said it before, but some seem to have trouble comprehending it...

A company that looks at the current install base and judges their decisions based purely on that is backwards-thinking and on their way to bankruptcy. Companies must look at future potential, competition, and potential fanbase. Games sell on systems because developers and publishers develop fanbases on those systems. It is not enough to just throw a game at a system with a high install base, you have to make people want your games on the system. And the argument of "there's no interest in the game on that system" is just as ludicrous, because lack of interest comes from lack of support, not the other way around.

In short, if any company thinks the way you do, then they're going to get decimated by the next generation.

Meanwhile, we know they were already working on the port, that porting games to Wii U is relatively cheap, and that there aren't that many shooting games on the Wii U, while the PS3 and 360 have a glut of them to compete against. EA have proven time and again that they don't actually understand gaming, and that's why the only way they ever make a profit is by buying out successful developers... who, after a few years, end up becoming crap, at which point EA has to buy out more developers. Fortunate for Crytek that they're just partners with EA, not owned by them.


That's rediculous. A company looks at a market of 140+ million consoles. The Wii U isn't even 2% of that market. It simply isn't profitable to make the exact same game for the Wii U as it is for the PS3 and 360. Also they probably realise that if someone wants Crysis 2, they already own either a PS3 or 360, and therefore developing for the Wii U isn't profitable. 

We've yet to see any future potential from the Wii U - where is it's PGR3? Until it truly defines itself as an 8th gen console and sets itself apart from the 360/PS3, it will be directly compared to the 360/PS3 in everyway - customers, potential, lifespan. 

 

freebs2 said:
Mazty said:
KHlover said:
EA is still mad at Nintendo? Way to go -_-


lolwut

Companies aren't people; they don't get "mad" at one another. One thing drives companies - money. Simply put, there are not enough users of the Wii U to warrant making a port. 

lolwut

I'd like to see if EA will ever decide to renounce porting a new game on Ps4/Xbox3 beacuse there aren't enough users on of them.

If the PS4/Nextbox show proper 8th gen potential, then actually we may see very little ports to them as publishers will realise that if someone has a nextbox, they probably already own a 360. This was not the case with the Xbox or GC due to much lower install bases, therefore it was quite reasonable to presume someone with a 360/PS3 may not actually have another console. 

 

KHlover said:
Mazty said:
KHlover said:
EA is still mad at Nintendo? Way to go -_-


lolwut

Companies aren't people; they don't get "mad" at one another. One thing drives companies - money. Simply put, there are not enough users of the Wii U to warrant making a port. 

If so, why does Google block GMaps on Windows Phone? Why does Samsung stop producing new chips for Apple? Companies are still led by people and thus CAN be mad at each other.

It's called market competition.....Google blocks a popular service in order to boost android sales. Samsung stops producing chips to increase Galaxy sales. This is basic economic competition and absolutely nothing to do with anger. 



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Mazty said:
Aielyn said:
Mazty said:
Companies aren't people; they don't get "mad" at one another. One thing drives companies - money. Simply put, there are not enough users of the Wii U to warrant making a port.

I've said it before, but some seem to have trouble comprehending it...

A company that looks at the current install base and judges their decisions based purely on that is backwards-thinking and on their way to bankruptcy. Companies must look at future potential, competition, and potential fanbase. Games sell on systems because developers and publishers develop fanbases on those systems. It is not enough to just throw a game at a system with a high install base, you have to make people want your games on the system. And the argument of "there's no interest in the game on that system" is just as ludicrous, because lack of interest comes from lack of support, not the other way around.

In short, if any company thinks the way you do, then they're going to get decimated by the next generation.

Meanwhile, we know they were already working on the port, that porting games to Wii U is relatively cheap, and that there aren't that many shooting games on the Wii U, while the PS3 and 360 have a glut of them to compete against. EA have proven time and again that they don't actually understand gaming, and that's why the only way they ever make a profit is by buying out successful developers... who, after a few years, end up becoming crap, at which point EA has to buy out more developers. Fortunate for Crytek that they're just partners with EA, not owned by them.


That's rediculous. A company looks at a market of 140+ million consoles. The Wii U isn't even 2% of that market. It simply isn't profitable to make the exact same game for the Wii U as it is for the PS3 and 360. Also they probably realise that if someone wants Crysis 2, they already own either a PS3 or 360, and therefore developing for the Wii U isn't profitable. 

We've yet to see any future potential from the Wii U - where is it's PGR3? Until it truly defines itself as an 8th gen console and sets itself apart from the 360/PS3, it will be directly compared to the 360/PS3 in everyway - customers, potential, lifespan. 

 

 

If the PS4/Nextbox show proper 8th gen potential, then actually we may see very little ports to them as publishers will realise that if someone has a nextbox, they probably already own a 360. This was not the case with the Xbox or GC due to much lower install bases, therefore it was quite reasonable to presume someone with a 360/PS3 may not actually have another console. 

 

 

 

It's called market competition.....Google blocks a popular service in order to boost android sales. Samsung stops producing chips to increase Galaxy sales. This is basic economic competition and absolutely nothing to do with anger. 

 

Under that mindset, when will it be right for them to start making games for Wii U? You can either invest in the future, or suffer.



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Mr Khan said:
Mazty said:

Companies don't get "butthurt". It's not as if this is the only multiplatform not to be coming to the Wii U. 

Read some of KungKras' posts. EA has a history of bullying and generally being a bunch of brats.

Is this the only multiplatform not to be ported to the Wii U? No, therefore why are people trying to dismiss this as EA having an attitude problem which is rediculous for a company of such a size which has stockholders. 
Companies may try to influence other companies decisions, but companies are not a bunch of schoolyard bullies looking to ruin another persons day for the hell of it. 

 

Mr Khan said:

Under that mindset, when will it be right for them to start making games for Wii U? You can either invest in the future, or suffer.


Who is them though? Every company that has said "no" to the Wii u? Think about it; there seems to be a collective idea that the wii u isn't the future. Whether that turns out to be true or not is a different topic, but with each dev saying no to porting a game, more will simply follow suit as it suggests that devs and therefore the market aren't looking favourably at the wii u. With the Wii U not even being 2% of the market and not demonstrating anything that seperates itself from the PS3 and 360, porting to it just doesn't make sense. 



Mazty said:
Mr Khan said:
Mazty said:
Mr Khan said:
mai said:

Could anybody translate "lack of business drive" from business English to regular English?

EA's still sad and butthurt that Nintendo didn't pay them to use Origin as the basis for Wii U's online.


Companies don't get "butthurt". It's not as if this is the only multiplatform not to be coming to the Wii U. 

Read some of KungKras' posts. EA has a history of bullying and generally being a bunch of brats.

Is this the only multiplatform not to be ported to the Wii U? No, therefore why are people trying to dismiss this as EA having an attitude problem which is rediculous for a company of such a size which has stockholders. 
Companies may try to influence other companies decisions, but companies are not a bunch of schoolyard bullies looking to ruin another persons day for the hell of it. 

Because a lot of Western third parties are as short-sighted as infants, as proven by their delightful financial track records. Companies like Take Two and EA are either malicious, incompetent, or a healthy mixture of both. Certainly not smart or successful businesses.



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Mr Khan said:
Mazty said:
Mr Khan said:
Mazty said:
Mr Khan said:
mai said:

Could anybody translate "lack of business drive" from business English to regular English?

EA's still sad and butthurt that Nintendo didn't pay them to use Origin as the basis for Wii U's online.


Companies don't get "butthurt". It's not as if this is the only multiplatform not to be coming to the Wii U. 

Read some of KungKras' posts. EA has a history of bullying and generally being a bunch of brats.

Is this the only multiplatform not to be ported to the Wii U? No, therefore why are people trying to dismiss this as EA having an attitude problem which is rediculous for a company of such a size which has stockholders. 
Companies may try to influence other companies decisions, but companies are not a bunch of schoolyard bullies looking to ruin another persons day for the hell of it. 

Because a lot of Western third parties are as short-sighted as infants, as proven by their delightful financial track records. Companies like Take Two and EA are either malicious, incompetent, or a healthy mixture of both. Certainly not smart or successful businesses.

Companies are not malicious. Greedy? Yes. Malicious? Where's the profit in that? Saying a company is malicious is rediculously humanising the issue. As I said above, with the wii u not even being 2% of the market and with it showing very little improvement over the 360 and PS3 (technically) then paying to have a team learn how to dev for the wii u and port the game just isn't going to be profitable. 



Mr Khan said:
Mazty said:
Mr Khan said:
Mazty said:
Mr Khan said:
mai said:

Could anybody translate "lack of business drive" from business English to regular English?

EA's still sad and butthurt that Nintendo didn't pay them to use Origin as the basis for Wii U's online.


Companies don't get "butthurt". It's not as if this is the only multiplatform not to be coming to the Wii U. 

Read some of KungKras' posts. EA has a history of bullying and generally being a bunch of brats.

Is this the only multiplatform not to be ported to the Wii U? No, therefore why are people trying to dismiss this as EA having an attitude problem which is rediculous for a company of such a size which has stockholders. 
Companies may try to influence other companies decisions, but companies are not a bunch of schoolyard bullies looking to ruin another persons day for the hell of it. 

Because a lot of Western third parties are as short-sighted as infants, as proven by their delightful financial track records. Companies like Take Two and EA are either malicious, incompetent, or a healthy mixture of both. Certainly not smart or successful businesses.

I dont see how a company (companies) that created GTA, Madden, the sims (what 120 million+ sold) are not smart or successful companies.  I hope the ban continues because I continually say that its people like you that make it so easy for them to do it.  While you complain about their lack of business success, I will be enjoying Grand theft auto 5.