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Kresnik on 04 January 2013
AlphaCielago said:

Can you enlighten me with the titles that will be released for the Vita? I know that Soul Sacrifice and Tales of Innoscence R will release and aswell the COMG duo, but what are the other titles?


January 24th - Demon Gaze & Monster Monpiece

January 31st - Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale

February 7th - Romance of Three Kingdoms 12

February 14th - Silent Hill: Book of Memories

February 28th - Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus; Phantasy Star Online 2 & Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Plus

March 7th - Soul Sacrifice & Tales Of Hearts R

March 14th - Steins;gate

March 21st - One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 & Dead or Alive 5 Plus

March 28th - Atelier Meruru Plus; Muramasa: Demon Blade; Photokano Kiss; Holy Sorcery Story

 

Obviously, some of these titles will be bigger than others.  I mentioned February 28th because two of those games are already up on COMG, and then the week after we're getting Tales of & Soul Sacrifice.  If Vita has some big weeks on the horizon, it'll be those two.  Possible March 21st as well, depending on how big a draw portable One Piece Musou is.



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Kresnik on 04 January 2013
Vinniegambini said:

True but Animal Crossing ensures that January will be Nintendo's, February will be Nintendo's with the release of Dragon Quest VII, and maybe March with Luigi's Mansion.

It is not about quantity but quality ;)

Sadly, the Vita will not pick up based on the established franchises of the above. Only Kingdom Hearts or Final Fantasy can save it from its grave.


Yes and no.  The way I see it, there are 6 'massive' franchises on handhelds in Japan:

2D Mario; Mario Kart; Pokemon; Animal Crossing; Dragon Quest & Monster Hunter.

4 of those can't leave Nintendo.  The other two probably won't leave Nintendo at this point.

Does that mean that Vita can't pick up sales from where it's at now?  Of course not.  Like the guy above me said, I'm not talking about Vita blowing 3DS out of the water in sales.  I think we're past that stage for now.

What it can do, however, is start doing better than where it is now, by picking up remnants of the Otaku fanbase who still buy the PSP.  Which I think their Q1 lineup is a start towards.  Like I said in my other post, I don't see Vita going up crazy amounts based upon this lineup.  At least until it has a price cut (which I think will come in April), but the games should at least spike the sales up for a few weeks.



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Soleron on 04 January 2013
Kresnik said:
Vinniegambini said:

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Yes and no.  The way I see it, there are 6 'massive' franchises on handhelds in Japan:

2D Mario; Mario Kart; Pokemon; Animal Crossing; Dragon Quest & Monster Hunter.

4 of those can't leave Nintendo.  The other two probably won't leave Nintendo at this point.

Why can't Sony clone these? They seem very cheap to make compared to a lengthy handheld JRPG even.



Vinniegambini on 04 January 2013
Train wreck said:
Vinniegambini said:
Kresnik said:
kowenicki said:

viscious circle.

No buyers, no content

no content, no buyers.


Vita has more retail titles announced for Q1 in Japan (19) than 3DS has (5).  So if the vicious circle is happening, it hasn't started quite yet.

It helps, however, that the 3DS' lineup includes 3 huge Japanese franchises (Dragon Quest; Dragon Ball; Super Robot Wars), with the big daddy on the horizon (Monster Hunter).

Vita sales will pick up in Japan.  Particular from the week starting February 28th to the end of March, imo.  How high they'll get is another story.  If Persona 4 can spike it up to 35k and Miku can spike it up to 55k then I'm sure we'll be seeing some higher weeks.  

Nothing will be sustained until a price cut though.  The sooner the better, particularly for Japan.

True but Animal Crossing ensures that January will be Nintendo's, February will be Nintendo's with the release of Dragon Quest VII, and maybe March with Luigi's Mansion.

It is not about quantity but quality ;)

Sadly, the Vita will not pick up based on the established franchises of the above. Only Kingdom Hearts or Final Fantasy can save it from its grave.

Hopefully the vita does not get final fantasy or kingdom hearts, two series that are front loaded and on declines.  And Animal Crossing and Dragon Quest VII does not prevent the Vita from having 100k weeks, which is the center point of the conservation (not Nintendo winning months).  The main issues with vita have been content and price, if Sony can address those (its trying to address one now and promises action on its price from last year) then 100k average weeks should not be hard to do.

We are saying the exact same thing. The Vita saddly does not have the array of titles needed to move hardware. Software (content) sells the hardware - Nintendo has the content. Even if Sony indeed slashes the price point of the Vita, it will not be suficient and in my opinion, even if they do, it will not move 100k without that 'AAA' title and the only strong foothold franchises left for Japanese audiences are Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts, regardless of your stance.



Kresnik on 04 January 2013
Soleron said:

Why can't Sony clone these? They seem very cheap to make compared to a lengthy handheld JRPG even.


That pretty much sums up Sony's problems in Japan at the moment.

Sony have two studios in Japan.  One is Polyphony, who are permanently tied up with Gran Turismo.

The other is Japan Studio, who faffed around making wonderful - but niche - games like LocoRoco & Patapon last generation.  Then they kind of fell apart this generation and Sony had to send some management teams from Santa Monica & London to sort them out.  

So while Nintendo manufactures their own success in Japan & third parties follow, Sony don't seem to have it together at the moment.  They make some wonderful games of their own - LittleBigPlanet is a great 2D platformer for example, but it's made in the west so most Japanese people aren't going to buy it.



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Herolink7 on 04 January 2013
Train wreck said:
Vinniegambini said:
Kresnik said:
kowenicki said:

viscious circle.

No buyers, no content

no content, no buyers.


Vita has more retail titles announced for Q1 in Japan (19) than 3DS has (5).  So if the vicious circle is happening, it hasn't started quite yet.

It helps, however, that the 3DS' lineup includes 3 huge Japanese franchises (Dragon Quest; Dragon Ball; Super Robot Wars), with the big daddy on the horizon (Monster Hunter).

Vita sales will pick up in Japan.  Particular from the week starting February 28th to the end of March, imo.  How high they'll get is another story.  If Persona 4 can spike it up to 35k and Miku can spike it up to 55k then I'm sure we'll be seeing some higher weeks.  

Nothing will be sustained until a price cut though.  The sooner the better, particularly for Japan.

True but Animal Crossing ensures that January will be Nintendo's, February will be Nintendo's with the release of Dragon Quest VII, and maybe March with Luigi's Mansion.

It is not about quantity but quality ;)

Sadly, the Vita will not pick up based on the established franchises of the above. Only Kingdom Hearts or Final Fantasy can save it from its grave.

Hopefully the vita does not get final fantasy or kingdom hearts, two series that are front loaded and on declines.  And Animal Crossing and Dragon Quest VII does not prevent the Vita from having 100k weeks, which is the center point of the conservation (not Nintendo winning months).  The main issues with vita have been content and price, if Sony can address those (its trying to address one now and promises action on its price from last year) then 100k average weeks should not be hard to do.


What?



HeavenlyWarrior on 04 January 2013

They still have metal gear



smbu2000 on 04 January 2013
Kresnik said:

What it can do, however, is start doing better than where it is now, by picking up remnants of the Otaku fanbase who still buy the PSP.  Which I think their Q1 lineup is a start towards.  Like I said in my other post, I don't see Vita going up crazy amounts based upon this lineup.  At least until it has a price cut (which I think will come in April), but the games should at least spike the sales up for a few weeks.

Will it be able to to do that though? The Vita just can't compete with the PSP, it's just a much better value. There is a large catalog of games, cheap used games, games still being released. You don't have to buy overpriced Vita only memory cards. (micro SD card + MS Pro Duo adapter)

I just picked up a new PSP myself less than 2 weeks ago. http://tinyurl.com/akgmyht




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cmeese47 on 04 January 2013

Yay for the PS3, It is about time for the 360 to know its role and get in line behind the PS3. The Vita is still getting beaten like a government mule by the 3DS.

Overall, though I am pretty happy with the hardware sales



Psyberius on 05 January 2013
cmeese47 said:
Yay for the PS3, It is about time for the 360 to know its role and get in line behind the PS3. The Vita is still getting beaten like a government mule by the 3DS.

Overall, though I am pretty happy with the hardware sales


Know it's role?  What role would that be?  The one where the 360...without a blu-ray player, has dominated the PS3 head to head between the two of them for most of this generation?  Care to compare Xbox1 vs PS2 in relation to where 360 and PS3 are? 

Add on all of the additional money MS has made off of XBL and the PS3 is so far behind the 360 in terms of success, it's not even a blip on the market.

Don't write the 360 off yet....it's going to maintain enough strength to keep PS3 in its place until the 720 comes later this year.

I for one beleive that the console market is 1 device too big with three.   Will there even be a compelling reason to own a PSwhatever with wiiU handling one segment of the console market and 720 handling all of the rest of it?  There is only so much AAA in the Sony arsenal.  Put a nextgen MS console in before Sony and all of those multi-console games will be going to less targets.  I sincerely beleive that Sony has misplayed their hand with expecting PS3 to sell 110million consoles.  You can make a console paper thin and with as big of hard drive as you want however it's still going to be seen as old technology when the next generation comes out.  People have a nasty habit of dropping old tech like hot potatoes.