That may be the case, I reall don't give a F*ck, my point still stands ...

They bought the Wii, and they didn't buy the Wii U. How hard is this to understand, are you really that dense?

Edit: My point has never been that the Wii was their dream system, my point was that they didn't buy the Wii U. They bought the Wii, complained that it was collecting dust for years and never played the big games that were released for it. You're an example of this, because every game I mention you ask "How did that play" ...

Oh yes yes.... as much as Halo 2 helped for the Xbox....

Nintendo was profitable during those days, Microsoft not so much.

Nevertheless, I still believe that Nintendo will do well. 3DS is a prime example of how Nintendo can turn around its hardware to the masses.

You are the one being dense here, I have had zero interest in that part of your discussion with me from the beginning. All I wanted was to have some facts backing your rant about elitist-whatever-graphics whores refusing to buy those good games on wii. As I originally said, a good game is all about preference and therefore, those people may actually feel that there are no good games on wii.

What the f*ck am I hearing?

There is snowballs chance in hell that nintendo made more profits than microsoft in the time they were selling GC.

I don't care what you wanted, I think anyone who would rather play a mediocre game with technically advanced graphics than one of the best games of the year with a strong artistic style is a moron. My point has repeatedly been that people's assumption on where the loss of sales for the Wii U compared to the Wii was wrong; that it is not the broader market or casual gamers that lost interest, it is these elitest gamers that bought the Wii (for whatever reason) and never gave it a fair chance are the ones who aren't buying it.

Microsoft's Entertainment division lost 4 billion from 2001 to 2005 - http://www.gamespot.com/news/microsoft-taking-126-hit-per-xbox-360-6140383

Please read :)

P.S. We are comparing gaming revenue, not Microsoft as a whole

Then you should remove GBA/DS profits from the nintendo earnings as you should remove all other devices/projects from MS EDD if you want to claim anything about GC/Xbox profits.  Can you do that? No?

Also, if you say "Microsoft" it means Microsoft as whole.

I fail to see your point, this is a gaming website.... But okay :)

Not based on this companies track record. Nintendo is a terribly conservative company. The conservative mindset always allows for a margin of error. Rather then trying for perfection. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with this presentation. Nintendo is basically managing expectations, and in doing so they are creating a safe and credible base line.

Investors abhor uncertainty, and conservative estimates are all about certainty. Basically the more faith there is in estimates at least being met. The safer it is to bet on those estimates. As compared to a company that is more aggressive with its predictions, and has a high likelihood of missing the projections by much wider margins, because they bet on best or worse case scenarios. I suppose there is a wisdom to betting on companies that require more intuition on the part of investors to establish their own base lines, and I suppose it can be profitable.

That doesn't mean that every company should make that their goal, and I sincerely doubt there is legion of investors out their demanding that every company has to be balls to the wall aggressive with their projections. There are a lot of high risk companies out there to invest in. So Nintendo not being one of them doesn't seem to be a problem.

Anyway I feel it is pretty apparent that Nintendo is extremely conservative. It isn't just that they almost always meet or exceed their projections. I think it has been a good long while since they honestly missed a release date for one of their first party games. I understand they have delayed a number of first party titles for the Wii U, but that was explained as balancing out the release schedule, and I don't recall if they ever had specific release dates to begin with.

That's what I've been saying.