By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sales - Halo 4 sells more in 7 weeks than GT:5 sold in its first year

raf40928 on 03 January 2013

Ok Im replying to the above pot about bundled consoles..

The bundled Halo console shouldn't be compared to a typical bundled console..

A typical bundled console is geared to someone wanting a good deal. I bought a regular 250 GB XB 360 ( at regular price mind you ) at Best Buy after my 6 year old original XB 360's DVD drive quit working..

It was again NORMAL PRICE.. It came with Skyrim and Forenza 4.. It was bundled.. the games were FREE..
THIS IS NOT THE CASE WITH HALO BUNDLED Consoles..

The Halo bundled console is much more expensive.. It's not geared to people looking for a good deal.. its geared to people who love the game so much - And would've bought it anyway - but can buy it with a console PAINTED UP and a controller PAINTED UP to match the entire game theme.. So when you buy a Halo bundled console - you're NOT buying a 'typical' bundled PLAIN JANE XB 360 system like I did at a low price - You're buying a system marked up at a premium - THIS doesn't boost sales among NON-FANS the way say that Forenza 4 sales got boosted from people buying a XB 360 console ( like I did ) at NORMAL Price - essentially most bundles give away the game for free or at a very low cost.. The Halo 4 Console debuted at 399.00 .. this is 100 over a typical console.. not a bad deal ( IF YOU"RE A BIG FAN ) .. but this is not the same as a bundled console which is much cheaper and often includes games that are desirable - but not necessarily epic.. I did like Skyrim being bundled but its only bundled cheaply because its now a year old.. and Forenza 4 while good is not awesome



Around the Network
raf40928 on 03 January 2013

So to add to my above post .. a bundled console is not the same as a exclusive game console..

Bundled consoles like I bought at regular price had the games for free ( yes sometimes they aren't free but given at a discount ).. THIS IS A TRUE BUNDLED Console.. Games at a discount

Halo 4 exclusive consoles are more then a bundle as they are dressed up to look different and they typically launch at 100 dollars more then the regular consoles ( although game stop starting selling them only 50 dollars closer to Christmas ) - Exclusive consoles as this aren't a true bundled console - this doesn't come at a viable discount and therefore doesn't persuade a NON fan into a sale to save some cash..

Non fans of Skyrim and Forenza will buy the bundled XB 360 - because the games both come FREE with this console.. The Halo 4 exclusive consoles are not normal price.. they aren't true bundles.. they are exclusive consoles



walsufnir on 03 January 2013
kazuyamishima said:
United States Loves FPS

Why dont just make the thread: "Black Ops II Will sell more in 3 months than Halo 4 will sell Lifetime"??


easy - blops2 is not exclusive.



TyePhoid_PAL on 03 January 2013
Legend11 said:
I wonder how many price cuts GT5 had to even make it there.




Ynwa.

BenVTrigger on 03 January 2013
djs said:
Great sales for an exclusive game, but pretty average sales for an fps.


Wait.........what?

Halo 4 is now the fastest selling FPS ever not called COD.  How on earth is that average for an FPS?  In fact please tell me how many FPS sell 7 million in their LIFETIME on one console besides Call of Duty.



Around the Network
TyePhoid_PAL on 03 January 2013

Halo 4 has been £25 in the UK for a few weeks now.

Very few games hold their price for long in the UK. GT5 surprisingly launched at £44.99 over here, like the cod and fifa titles do.

More and more people are waiting a fortnight and picking the latest game up for half price.



Ynwa.

Chris Hu on 03 January 2013
bananaking21 said:

for people pointing out the GT5 was bundled

 

 

enjoy and celebrate the sales, but just dont be hypocrites and downplay GT5 sales because it was bundled after 3 years

That was a very limted bundle but it will be bundled for real next holiday and will totally destroy GT5 sales numbers even though the 720 will be released around the same time period.



bananaking21 on 03 January 2013
Chris Hu said:
bananaking21 said:

for people pointing out the GT5 was bundled

 

 

enjoy and celebrate the sales, but just dont be hypocrites and downplay GT5 sales because it was bundled after 3 years

That was a very limted bundle but it will be bundled for real next holiday and will totally destroy GT5 sales numbers even though the 720 will be released around the same time period.

we went over the bundle part and i explained why i mentioned it like a million times already :) and as for halo outselling gt this is how i feel :)



bananaking21 on 03 January 2013
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:




at what point did i ever downplay halo or say its not a successful? or say that its not a huge ass money maker. i actually never said anything about halo other than it had that bundle. and the most succsessful exclusive isnt GT5, or halo4 or 3. its mario kart. my posts arent about downplaying halo. as for GT shipments, until PD update them we have no idea if they shipped more or not, and thats what im saying from the start. PD numbers showed that GT was undertracked with every time they update them. 


Most of that statement is for the entire thread to read.  A lot of people are downplaying it, not you necessarily.  And yes Mario is by far the biggest exclusive.  I should have said for the HD twins.  What was aimed at you was the first part.  We know it has shipped 9.19m not sold.  It is very likely that it has close to 1m games in stores just like it is very plausible that Halo 4 has 1m in stores.  Once they sell through that then make another shipment then that whole argument about it being undertrracked can be brought back up.  Until then it is just pointless because we don't know how much is in stores.

And befor eyou say anything yes Gran Turismo 5 has sold amazingly well and I'm not trying to downplay that.  Hell I don't even like Gran turismo 5 and I bought it at launch and I'll say it's bee a success.  But this thread has been annoying on all ends and any body who actually knows how a business works can say with 100% no doubt that Halo has been bigger for MSFT than GT for Sony this generation.  That is not an argument but a fact.

The difference is that GT5 has been on the market for a lot longer than the just released halo 4, so for example if both have 9 million shipped its more than likely that GT5 sold more at the moment because halo 4 just released and is selling a lot faster, so they need more stock. where gt5 isnt selling that fast so the dont need as much stock. but clearely halo 4 will outsell GT5, no question about that. people shouldnt be comparing it to GT they should be comparing it to halo 3, atleast that would be a more fun comparasion. 

as for whats bigger for each console halo is without a doubt bigger, never have i denied that or said other wise. both sold great, halo sold better and faster and had a better effect on console hardware sales as far as i can tell. but people who are downplaying the success of gt5 saying it only sells because of bundles are just completely wrong and at some points where being hypocritical when it comes to counting bundle sales. yes GT5 is bundled more than halo, i know. but acting like halo4 isnt bundled and GT5 sold most of its coppies due to bundles is being a hypocrit, regadless of which made more money or which was bundled more (gt5 of course)


Agreed.  As usual bundles get brought up on this site and they are still irrelevant and useless to bring up.    And I wasn't talking about you downplaying halo, I'm talking to people (I'm assuming you know who) in general.  The only thing I wanted to say to you is you are using shipped number rather than sold.  We don't even know how much Halo 4 has shipped as well as 99.9% of every other game. 


as its the only offical number that we can get so its the best indicator we can have to sell to consumer numbers. even more when the numbers keep getting updated



Chris Hu on 03 January 2013
Jay520 said:
I always expected Halo 4 to have a stronger launch. But I'll be more impressed if it surpasses GT5"s lifetime sales, which I don't see happening.

It will happened because it will be included in next years holiday bundle which will give it a 2million+ boost and by the time its bundled it will aready be around the 9 million mark.