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Will the Xbox community grow?

Yes over time it will get bigger 43 17.34%
 
No for some reason it won't 107 43.15%
 
The Xbox fanbase is already big enough 98 39.52%
 
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Nightwish224 on 30 December 2012

While there is a niche group of us, I feel it will expand. IMO, majority of the Microsoft fans on here seem to be more level headed. That of course, is up for debate.



Everyone needs to play Lost Odyssey! Any opposition to this and I will have to just say, "If it's a fight you want, you got it!"

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Normando on 30 December 2012
oniyide said:
Normando said:
I find that alot 360 gamers tend to not be as serious about gaming as Sony or Nintendo fans in general. You have alot of people who just play games like COD, Gears, Halo, and Madden that never really get involved in things like this.

It's pretty easy to see why too. The 360 really caters to that type of gamer. It's a bro shooters console.


I dont think thats a fair assetment at all. COD is also quite popular on PS3 and alot of the multigames released on both systems sell just about on par with each other, with 360 usually seeling a bit more

What I mean is that the most popular games on the 360 are usually shooters and such. COD is popular on the PS3 aswell, but more so on the 360. That, and pretty much all of the top selling exclusives are bro shooters.



oniyide on 30 December 2012
Normando said:
oniyide said:
Normando said:
I find that alot 360 gamers tend to not be as serious about gaming as Sony or Nintendo fans in general. You have alot of people who just play games like COD, Gears, Halo, and Madden that never really get involved in things like this.

It's pretty easy to see why too. The 360 really caters to that type of gamer. It's a bro shooters console.


I dont think thats a fair assetment at all. COD is also quite popular on PS3 and alot of the multigames released on both systems sell just about on par with each other, with 360 usually seeling a bit more

What I mean is that the most popular games on the 360 are usually shooters and such. COD is popular on the PS3 aswell, but more so on the 360. That, and pretty much all of the top selling exclusives are bro shooters.


...i guess



ethomaz on 31 December 2012

walsufnir said:

Very good post, probably too long for some. Mostly I am out of most threads when the usual suspects appear :) But overall there are also very interesting threads on this site so I won't move to a different site.

Yeap... good post... Sony fans are donkeys and Microsoft fans are so smart... lol



spaceguy on 31 December 2012
Dodece said:
This community used to have a large, highly intelligent, and vibrant Microsoft community early in the generation. It was however culled away by biased moderators. Who were corrupted, because they were convinced to intervene in the whole console war games. They not only favored one side, and banned to aid that side. They created forum rule sets, and shadow rule sets that benefited one side over another. Once that happened the side that took the most abuse abandoned the site, and sullied its reputation in communities they moved into.

Basically we had a contingent of Sony Care Bears on these forums. You have to understand that Care Bears aren't necessarily interested in a clean fight. They are only interested in having a equal chance of winning a fight. Even if they don't put forth the effort, or even have the facts on their side. To them if that means rigging the system to handicap the other side then that is what has to be done. They played the role of victim, and they conned moderators into fixing their little fights so that if the other side of the debate came out on top. It still lost, because a few posters on the other side would get banned. So that the Care Bears could claim they won, or their was in fact a tie.

Needless to say most respectable posters want to win or lose on merit alone. They don't need to win to have a sense of real accomplishment, and they don't take losses personally. To them even if the team they are playing for loses. They can still claim to have scored some good points. However once you start cheating them, or punishing them for doing a good job. Then they do take it personally. Since the Care Bears focused most of their manipulations against the Microsoft contingent most of them were forced out of this community. That isn't to say that in the end they weren't the only losses, or even the worst loss.

Thanks to their antics we ended up losing a number of contingents on this site. The Care Bears ended up dragging what was left of the Sony Defense Forces with them when they ended up being culled themselves. The Nintendork population went through the floor, because they lost the Microsoft retro gaming contingent they talked with. We even lost a lot of our genre specific groups, because we ended up losing the critical mass to support them.

I am not saying that the Microsoft contingent was ever as big as the Sony contingent, but it was easily three quarters of the size of the Sony contingent at the beginning of the generation. Which as far as debating was concerned was pretty even. Can we get back to that I absolutely think that we can. When the next generation of Sony and Microsoft consoles come out we should see a big influx of new faces. That should dwarf the current population of these forums.

To me the only question is have we learned from the past, and that does kind of concern me. Even though we lost the corrupt moderators ages ago, and those Care Bears who played the system rather then the game ages ago. We are still a little too soft for the kind of debates that are going to be coming. I am afraid we are going to fall back into the same trap that ended up just ravaging this community. I can easily see a number of posters on these forums taking up the Care Bear mantle, and finding a way to replay the whole scenario all over again.

It isn't just the Microsoft contingent that suffered, because of that whole fiasco. It may be the most obvious sign, but what was really lost was the competition that made the conversation better. All we need to do is be welcoming, and more importantly we need to recognize that the whole console war thing is just a game we are playing. The goal may be to win, but the point is to have fun playing the game. I think everyone on these forums should recognize that a small Microsoft contingent isn't a good thing for any of us. If we realize that a well balanced community is actually in our best interest. Then we probably won't be all that tempted to fall back into bad habits.



You are right I know someone that had a account in 2008 and got a perma ban for a joke. However it doesn't matter cause that friend of mine has come back. LOL



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walsufnir on 31 December 2012
ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

Very good post, probably too long for some. Mostly I am out of most threads when the usual suspects appear :) But overall there are also very interesting threads on this site so I won't move to a different site.

Yeap... good post... Sony fans are donkeys and Microsoft fans are so smart... lol


Who said this? There are idiots on both sides, anyone should know.



S.T.A.G.E. on 31 December 2012
spaceguy said:
Dodece said:
This community used to have a large, highly intelligent, and vibrant Microsoft community early in the generation. It was however culled away by biased moderators. Who were corrupted, because they were convinced to intervene in the whole console war games. They not only favored one side, and banned to aid that side. They created forum rule sets, and shadow rule sets that benefited one side over another. Once that happened the side that took the most abuse abandoned the site, and sullied its reputation in communities they moved into.

Basically we had a contingent of Sony Care Bears on these forums. You have to understand that Care Bears aren't necessarily interested in a clean fight. They are only interested in having a equal chance of winning a fight. Even if they don't put forth the effort, or even have the facts on their side. To them if that means rigging the system to handicap the other side then that is what has to be done. They played the role of victim, and they conned moderators into fixing their little fights so that if the other side of the debate came out on top. It still lost, because a few posters on the other side would get banned. So that the Care Bears could claim they won, or their was in fact a tie.

Needless to say most respectable posters want to win or lose on merit alone. They don't need to win to have a sense of real accomplishment, and they don't take losses personally. To them even if the team they are playing for loses. They can still claim to have scored some good points. However once you start cheating them, or punishing them for doing a good job. Then they do take it personally. Since the Care Bears focused most of their manipulations against the Microsoft contingent most of them were forced out of this community. That isn't to say that in the end they weren't the only losses, or even the worst loss.

Thanks to their antics we ended up losing a number of contingents on this site. The Care Bears ended up dragging what was left of the Sony Defense Forces with them when they ended up being culled themselves. The Nintendork population went through the floor, because they lost the Microsoft retro gaming contingent they talked with. We even lost a lot of our genre specific groups, because we ended up losing the critical mass to support them.

I am not saying that the Microsoft contingent was ever as big as the Sony contingent, but it was easily three quarters of the size of the Sony contingent at the beginning of the generation. Which as far as debating was concerned was pretty even. Can we get back to that I absolutely think that we can. When the next generation of Sony and Microsoft consoles come out we should see a big influx of new faces. That should dwarf the current population of these forums.

To me the only question is have we learned from the past, and that does kind of concern me. Even though we lost the corrupt moderators ages ago, and those Care Bears who played the system rather then the game ages ago. We are still a little too soft for the kind of debates that are going to be coming. I am afraid we are going to fall back into the same trap that ended up just ravaging this community. I can easily see a number of posters on these forums taking up the Care Bear mantle, and finding a way to replay the whole scenario all over again.

It isn't just the Microsoft contingent that suffered, because of that whole fiasco. It may be the most obvious sign, but what was really lost was the competition that made the conversation better. All we need to do is be welcoming, and more importantly we need to recognize that the whole console war thing is just a game we are playing. The goal may be to win, but the point is to have fun playing the game. I think everyone on these forums should recognize that a small Microsoft contingent isn't a good thing for any of us. If we realize that a well balanced community is actually in our best interest. Then we probably won't be all that tempted to fall back into bad habits.



You are right I know someone that had a account in 2008 and got a perma ban for a joke. However it doesn't matter cause that friend of mine has come back. LOL


When I favored Microsoft I was banned less. I was banned more after I started favoring Sony. ::Twilight Zone music::



Player1x3 on 31 December 2012

I hope not, i really do. It's better when the people with similar taste are a majority and the haters are minority



DirtyP2002 on 31 December 2012
Player1x3 said:
I hope not, i really do. It's better when the people with similar taste are a majority and the haters are minority


A true democrat here.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

DirtyP2002 on 31 December 2012
dahuman said:
DirtyP2002 said:
dahuman said:
JayWood2010 said:
dahuman said:
JayWood2010 said:
think-man said:
There seem to be enough as far as I can tell.


Who?  Sales2099 which hasn't been back since being banned.  Seece is inactive.  Selnor got banned.  The only other huge xbox fan i can think of is the guy with a BB in his logo.  I dont know his name


I think his name is like Dirty whatever, not a bad guy, just picked a really bad fight with me once over how XBL is better than Steam, that was pretty funny. I like Germans in general, I think he's German, good beer, good cars, origin of language to English, their smoke doesn't smell like shit so 2nd hand smoking isn't as crappy, and they have some hot blonde girls.

Yeah that is the guy.  Dirty something or another.  And ehhh, i'd still say Steam is the best service of the 3. Just my opinion

well yeah, he was trying to argue that XBL is better than Steam lol. I was like O_O;;;;;;;; u cereal brah?

feel free to pm me and I will convince you. I don't want to derail this thread.

derail what? you didn't even provide the correct information when you tried to argue it and just vanished lol, there isn't even anything else to talk about at this point because your Steam is clearly different than the one I'm using according to your comparison list, that or Steam in Germany is different than the one in the US, then no discussion is needed anyways since if that's the case, then Steam in the USA is superior to the Steam in Germany.

I write most of my posts in the office. I can't keep every conversation going. I did not vanish, because I did not want to argue with you. My boss probably came in and yeah, VGC on my screen is not as welcome as you might think.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...