Yeah.... a lot of the ones from yellow stone carry diseases with them and are gunned down a lot if they wonder into private properties, their numbers have increased a lot over the years. Even if we don't eat them, we'll still kill them anyways if we feel threatened, funny how that works. Buffalo meat doesn't taste that good either, kinda dry in general.

I care more about the plants than the animal. Beef eating should be reduced so poor South Americans do not continue to cut down the rainforest to raise cattle for Notre Americanos. My issue is with human population, the earth needs less people. When you fuck wear a rubber and do the earth some good.

BTW, where is yogurt in all of this? I eat like one spoon of really good yogurt a day and it helps with my digestive system by replenishing the required goods, after consuming raw garlic which most likely killed some good bacteria in my intestines. Can't make that without milk now can we?

It is dry, but it tasted the same as beef to me. I've also had Ostrich which I like. I want to try boar burger next. (Yay for fuddruckers)

Well actually meat is the only place you can easily get the complete proteins your body needs to run correctly and you to be healthy. Soy "can" supply the proteins but it needs to be fermented for about a year or more before the body can process it. (There was an article written up by a nutritionist about the facts and fiction about soy use I will try to find it later.) And the way that soy is processed currently you get no nutritional value from any of it forms (even most tofu isn't made properly today), all soy does in introduce toxins into your system that does more damage then good. One of them is a neurotoxin that causes early on-set dementia.

Other than that to get the proteins any other way you have to eat certain amounts of certain vegetables in the correct amounts to get the proper nutrition. You cannot just through a salad together with some of the now in vogue items and live healthy, that is why some vegan look so sickly they are not getting the correct amount of proteins so their body can function normally. It just a lot of work that almost all people don't want to go through.

Though yes we do eat way too much meat in today society. We are only suppose to have a few ounces a day and that is enough to supply the body with enough complete protein to allow you to stay healthy. But most people prefer to go out and get fast food which supplies you with too many starches and too much protien especially if you eat there more than once a day.

I have said all of this through out this thread. However you said it much better. So kudos to you.

If God didn't want me to eat pigs, why did he make them taste like delicious bacon?!?!

You've done it again. You've argued that animals have the same value as humans. If you're going to continue to push such an insulting point of view I afraid I must leave this discussion.

I hope one day you learn to value your fellow humans even the slightest bit more than beasts. The same, by the way, beasts that eat the beasts we eat.

Good day to you.

we obviously don't need meat and i once read that vegetarians die much later as non-vegetarians on average (but the main reason should be that they are also more active and stuff)

i think there is no problem in eating animals, animals also eat animals (at least many of them). but i don't really like how many of those animals have to live. animals shouldn't suffer before their death. if they would have a good life it would be even good to eat animals because otherwise these animals (pigs as example) would have never seen this planet, they are only born because we want to eat them.

so, give the animals a better life, if it will cost more for us then i have no prob with it, i just eat it little bit less then. you can already buy meat from farms where you can see that the animals had an awesome life, it costs maybe more but the animal didn't suffer and did only live because i want to eat it, win win^^

This made me hungry. Im going to go out back and slaughter a pig now.