zero129 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
zero129 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
zero129 said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I hunt and fish which means I kill animals myself, cut them up, cook them and eat them. When I grew up my parents would raise a steer or a heifer for a year or two and then slaughter it. I helped take care of it and then I helped slaughter it. The beef I eat comes from a local farm and is humanly slaughtered. I know where my meat comes from and I am well aware of nature of life and death. Animals aren't people so your alien analogy falls completely flat.
With that said, I don't approve of the mistreatment of animals that big corporations cause.
However, nothing will stop me from enjoying meat. An hour long propaganda piece on meat isn't going to "open my eye" or make me rethink anything. We are all part of the same ecco-system and circle of life. We earned the right to be at the top of the food chain. Animals are rightfully our food and we are the stewards of the ecco-system that we climbed to the top of. Animal abuse and neglect disgusts me, but local ranchers here in Oregon don't mistreat their animals.
My advice to you is to buy locally sourced meat products from trusted small businesses. Go to a butcher for meat instead of Safeway. Ask where it came from and if the butcher can't tell you the rancher's name go to another butcher.
Fight animal abuse not meat eaters.
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I just hope if aliens ever do decide to visit us they dont think like you in the bolded parts.
As for the rest its good you at least care how the animals are killed xD.
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I will say it again. Your alien analogy falls flat.
I'll illustrate it with a question:
A scuba diver is eaten Shark and a man eats a hamburger. Which is the greater tragedy?
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The man eating the hamburger. Well the scuba divers life would of been a great loss on the grand scale of things both loses where bad. but the shark is a carnivor and will eat meat no matter what type its in their system, well the human eating the hamburger choose to do so.
Basicly in a world where we are meant to be the only animals that "Knows" right from wrong we sure do alot of wrong and to things we see as less powerful then us.
Didnt we outlaw racism cos of this? The white man, or people with money used to think it was ok to inslave and capture other humans as long as they where not white? or the same as them?. so yeah my alien analogy doesnt fall flat. Cos as long as people think its ok to be so crual and bad to a lesser species we have no reason to think a more advanced species then us wouldnt think the same way.
I mean wouldnt it suck if Karma came around to bite us in the ass and we ended up getting captued and taking over by aliens and breed and used as livestock for them?. like they only see us as lesser animals so its in their right to do what they want with us.
Also no one here i dont think have even watched the video -_- .
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If you believe that then you need tot ake a vacation and go spend a weekend at a nice bread and breakfast in a nice small town. Unplug from the internet, meet new people and reevaluate your priorities.
If you think a man eating a burger is a tragedy but not a diver killed by a shark I want you to consider how the diver's family feels for their loss. The cow harvested for the burger was not missed by it's herd.
Stop comparing humans to animals. This falacy is the reason your alien analogy is so flawed and why you can't see it yourself.
As a pet owner and animal lover who believes that animals deserve respect and should be treated with kindness believe that there is no difference between a lion eating a zebra and a man eating a hamburger. However there is a HUGE difference between a shark killing a man and a man killing a deer. Both men are loved and love other humans. The shark and the deer are souless.
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To the bolded i ask you how do you know this? how do you know what that animal is feeling or what its family feels?.
To the underlined. You have still not explained why this fails but yet i have showing you how it is true.
Did the white people years ago not think black people where nothing but animals?, did the white people not enslave, Capture, kill and torture lots of them just like we do with animals today with no 2nd thought cos they thought they didnt think like them? cos they couldnt understand what they where saying?, cos they thought they where inferior beings?? did hitler and the nazis not do the same to the jews etc etc? this list could go on and on.
But pretty much us humans or most of us seem to be ok with doing bad things to other humans or species as long as we cant understand how they feel or dont want to understand. So why would aliens if they came here see us any different then we have seen ourselfs and pretty much every other specie on this planet? as nothing more then something to be used??.
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You've done it again. You've argued that animals have the same value as humans. If you're going to continue to push such an insulting point of view I afraid I must leave this discussion.
I hope one day you learn to value your fellow humans even the slightest bit more than beasts. The same, by the way, beasts that eat the beasts we eat.
Good day to you.
