this will be ps3's easiest year,and its 4th year victory in a row(not insanely over-shipped 360 numbers with them piled up on shelves like theres no tomorrow),ps3 might even win the holidays out of this (current)gens big 3.. wiiu i consider next gen(barely). wiiu might get 100% by default come this time next year is the ps720 isnt ready

PS4 is just as likely to launch in 2013 as nextbox.  Also I've admited multiple times I'm playing what if but all these people saying MS "earned" those sales or bought xbox because they thought it was legitimately a better console are talking out of their ass.  Most of the 360 gamers I know own one exclusive (Halo or Gears), but usually they play COD and other multiplats.  Why are they playing those on 360?  Because it came out a year earlier and its main competition was %50 more expensive (not a small amount that could be overlooked for brand loyalty).  Of course if people would look at the free online thing and think into the future they would see that even that astronomical difference would be made up for, but people tend to look at the initial price on a shelf over thinking years down the road.  Let's also not forget the artificially inflated install base of 360 due to RROD.

Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant. I don't know any PS3 owners off of the Internet that play any Sony franchises. It's all Madden, Call of Duty, and Battlefield. See how that works? And guess what? Software sales show we're both right. 2 MS games in the 360's top 10 (again, not counting Kinect Adventures) and 2 Sony games in the PS3 top 10. Maybe people play CoD and other multiplatform games on 360 because they are better there? Anyone who has played CoD knows this to be the case.

If the 360 has a huge inflated user base because of RROD then what does that say about PS3 gamers in regards to software sales? Not a hot look.

Whats your point. People also play CoD on the PS3, it sells millions on the PS3 aswel. Try to add something constructive to the thread instead of your own biased observations.

call of duty should be selling alot more on 360 but it only sells like 2 million more than the ps3 version which is nothing. 360 has 15m more consoles sold in US, which is call of duty territory and look how close they are. more impressive of ps3 if you ask me and maybe RROD did affect things.

Miguel_Zorro said: man-bear-pig said: Euphoria14 said: kowenicki said: M.U.G.E.N said: Euphoria14 said: By the way, with the way Turkish is treated around here, no wonder Seece left. We are a miserable bunch here and enjoy destroying our community by attacking each other. Try to be nice, at least for just the holidays? BINGO I was about to say something similar. I mean wtf is wrong with some of you?  Especially Kowen..did turkish run over your dog or something? I see you going after him a lot. Just give it a rest will ya anyways advise for Turkish: just ignore and don't respond to posts going after you. Just going to derail threads OT: PS3 is still going strong. I do wonder how long ps360 can keep getting strong sales going into the future. Both have room for some good price cuts as well Both wrong and how ironic from MUGEN.  Are you suggesting Seece left becuse he was a disliked poster who was hounded? I dont agree with that at all and neither would he.  But if you do then you better look in the mirror. And no... I wont. I am on his case.  Live with it. why did he leave? I always thought it was due to him being followed around and attacked on the regular and if I were him I would have done the same. He was a great contributor. There are 3 reasons: 1. The sources thread which exposed him. 2. Machina leaving. 3. Me. I'M SO SORRY SEEECEMOND! COME BACK SEECEFREID! What sources thread?

thesoucre hasn't made any threads in a while. you'll have to go to his profile and look through the list of threads he's made. it shouldn't take long. Seece also left, cause he needed new victims to insult, harass, and pester.

Seece(i called him parker when i found it to be his last name)was well respected, regardless of his antics. i thgouht him funny 98% of the time, although i let him get to me at times. and alot of the time i baited him purposely cause i new wht he hatted about me lol.

i'm still not convenced he's gone for good.

You're saying everyone who bought a 360 did so only because they were ill informed, didn't care, or were otherwise mislead?

You - good sir - with all due respect - are talking out of your arse.

It's this kind of arrogance/reality disconnect - that is symbolic of where Sony find themselves at the moment. If only everyone was as educated, cultured and refined enough - they'd all buy Sony.

The possibility that anyone could find a competitors offering superior to what Sony offered, and willfully choose them over Sony because their product offered more of what they wanted/a better product in the areas they find important - be it Microsoft or Nintendo - just doesn't compute with some people does it?

Bullet point lists (usually starting with PSN +) will be brought out, maps of Europe will be imageshacked into posts, spreadsheets with "aligned launches"  and coloured lines will be attached - lectures will be delivered with all the subtlety, nuance and narrow world view of a student politician guest lecturing a civics class - and not one crap will be given by people who are happy with their choice of console this generation.

Sony clearly acknowledge where their competitors have strengths (and usually try to mimic it 12-18 months later) - I don't see why Sony diehards (a special breed apart from the regular Sony fans - who are generally open minded and level headed) have to wait for the Sony version of a competitors product to come out before they acknowledge "innovation".

The unwashed masses of low IQ, low income, poorly educated Nintendo/MS users all yearn to be free under Sony! If only they knew it.

Keep up the good work.

Try following conversations instead of asking stupid questions.

Each release sells more on 360 by various numbers, it's not a flat 2 million difference per title. And on every release the difference in the US is higher than the difference WW so idk what point you are trying to make. It's not as simple as "well this console has such and such userbase and this one has such and such so this console should have sold such and such more". BO2 hasn't been out long enough, but MW3 sold at a higher rate on 360, even given the difference in userbase. Something like 1 in 4.5 on 360 versus 1 in 4.7 on PS3. Not a huge difference, but there shouldn't be. It's a FPS and the most popular one. It's going to be extremely popular on any console*. Furthermore who cares? I don't see what this has to do with CoD games playing better on 360 and that being a key cog resulting in some people playing it on 360 over PS3, which was what I was responding to. Just like I am sure plenty of people who own a 360 play the franchise on PS3 for free online play.

* - except Vita LOL

like.

I was taken to the "dark side" by friends who had a lot of fun with their x360 - now I know why ;)