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How has the Wii U performed so far?

It's doing spectacular! I'm blown away! 126 10.09%
 
It's doing really good, can't complain. 418 33.47%
 
It's doing good, not as ... 269 21.54%
 
Could have been better... 176 14.09%
 
It's doing poorly; Wii did much better! 127 10.17%
 
Still can't believe they... 133 10.65%
 
Total:1,249
Mazty said:
No, no & no. You completely fail to understand the Wii U's place in the market. Unlike other consoles at launch, the wii u is DIRECTLY competing against the PS3 and 360. All that can be gathered right now is that the Wii U, a new console, is being outsold BY THE COMPETITION. How the fuck you translate that into "the wii u is doing well" is completely beyond me, more so if you consider the poor performance in Europe.

Not doing well =/= failure. Nice strawman bro.

No, the Wii U is not "directly competing against the PS3 and 360", any more than the Wii was competing directly against the PS2. The Wii U is a different console. It's also supply constrained, even if it isn't selling out everywhere. It isn't POSSIBLE for the Wii U to sell as many units as the Xbox 360 in the last week, because there hasn't been that many units available on shelves.

The Wii U has just launched. It always takes time for a video game console to find its legs. Even the Wii. Every single console has had a relatively weak first holiday, compared with the following holiday. And the Wii U isn't far behind the Wii, and well beyond the PS3, which was competing with the older and cheaper, yet similarly capable 360, as you'll recall. So, despite being up against two consoles of similar power, it's performing better than either one did at launch.

The Wii U is similar in power. It is not similar in functionality. It is a different console. Each console should be taken on its own merits, and not compared with other consoles, to determine its value. And 99.9% of all people do exactly that.

You seem quite fond of accusing others of ad hominem, so I'm going to throw another classic term at you - Confirmation Bias. You seek out data points and claims that support your pre-existing opinion, and ignore all others. When others point out what you've ignored, you just repeat your original claim as though it proves it wrong, when in fact, it's quite the opposite. The Wii U is performing quite well, in a downturned economy against three popular cheaper consoles and a very popular handheld system (and the Vita :P), with a constrainment on supply and relatively little marketing (compared with the Wii). With all of those downward forces, it is still selling not far below how the Wii sold 6 years ago. And that's quite a feat. But if you restrict your attention to "it's not selling as well as the 360 and PS3 this holiday season", then of course it's going to look worse.

And no, the fact that it has some ports from 360 and PS3 prove nothing. Every platform gets ports from the previous generation at and around launch. It's how the industry works. Meanwhile, the Wii U's most notable titles are its exclusives, not the ports. And it's those that are selling very well. Take particular note of ZombiU.



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Could be doing better but we can't be to hasty.



It will top 2.5M by years end then maybe 4M by march!



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gronk-bonk said:

For the most part of Wii U life cycle it wil be competing with 720/ps4. I dont understand why you are insisting that it must compete with current gen consoles. Honestly, Nintendo would not even care if the ps3 or the 360 is outselling it by a bit, they are cheaper consoles with a large library, with more recognition because they have been out  on the market longer. The ps3/xbox 360 will exit the market in a year or 2, so again why would nintendo care?  They would be more concerned with building up a strong software line up and driving a large install base so they can get the advantage over the next installment of console.

Again, we are talking about the sales of a console at launch. Looking at the Wii U's sale number at launch they are doing better than the previous gen except the Wii,during a worse economic environment. So again explain to me how are the wii u sales number bad again?


It's power is on par with the existing consoles and it is aiming to have many current gen ports. I can't see how you think it's going to be competing with next-gen consoles when it seems to only show the power of the current gen. 

I don't care what Nintendo think - that's irrelevant. Those consoles won't exit the market in a year or two, They'll be around for a few more years while their successors are released, giving the people the choice between a cheaper old console which plays a lot of the same games of the wii u or a much more powerful console. 

The Wii U's sales sucked in Europe and we haven't have any launch to reasonably compare it to. Saying it's doing better then the 360 and PS3 at launch are completely irrelevant comparisons. The economic situation may be worse, but technology is a lot more attractive. 

Either way we'll see what happens. 



I think vgchartz should have a most logical poster award. I nominate Matzy for his excellent display of logic and debating skill.



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Mazty said:
DanneSandin said:
Mazty said:
DanneSandin said:
Mazty said:
DanneSandin said:
Mazty said:
DanneSandin said:
Mazty said:
It's not doing well....it's being outsold by much older consoles and developers aren't developing for it....Other then the die hard Nintendo fans and console collectors out there, I can't see it having a bright future.

So then I guess you thought the launch of PS360 sucked even more? You know.... since Wii U is outselling them both combined??

Why compare the Wii U's launch to what happend 6 years ago when the economy was very different? The Wii U also is directly competing against the 360 and PS3 - the PS3 and 360 where not directly competiting against the PS2. The Wii U is being outsold by it's 6-7 year old rivals, showing that people are more interested in the old then the new right now. As we are approaching the holiday season, that is even more concerning.

You are right that the economy is very much different, as I said in a post before - which you disregarded. The economy is much, much worse now than in 2006-2007 - at least in Europe. So is it really strange that people like the cheaper option? You really do like to spin things as much as possible, don't you? Let's see how the Wii U is doing next x-mas, and how it compares to PS720.


How have I put a spin on things by saying that a new console is being outsold by it's competition? That's what the figures show, and as you have said, releasing a new, expensive console now isn't the brightest of ideas....

Spinning: "It's not doing well" <- It's almost selling as well as Wii, and doing much better than PS360 at launch...

Spinning: "It's being outsold by older systems - not good" <- We've already established that this isn't unique for Wii U and that it's quite normal in the beginning of a gen. Viper1 established that both the PS2 and DS was outsold by older systems at launch, and that turned out to be pretty bad for both of them in the long run... Oh, wait...

That's what I call spinning. But I know that I won't change your mind. You will for ever think that Wii U was a failure at launch, and nothing I can say or do will change that.

 


No, no & no. You completely fail to understand the Wii U's place in the market. Unlike other consoles at launch, the wii u is DIRECTLY competing against the PS3 and 360. All that can be gathered right now is that the Wii U, a new console, is being outsold BY THE COMPETITION. How the fuck you translate that into "the wii u is doing well" is completely beyond me, more so if you consider the poor performance in Europe.

Not doing well =/= failure. Nice strawman bro. 

Oh, you're one of thoooose! Not thinking Wii U is part of the 8th gen =) now it all makes sense!

Wii was competing with PS360 - and did it very well. In fact, it was so good at competing that it won the gen. Wii U is part of the 8th gen of home consoles braw! And as far as I can see it's completely dominating! 100% market share. That's pretty good. But you're right, it could have had 110% or 200% market share!!

If the WIi U was not competiting directly with the 360 and PS3, then it wouldn't have so many ports and be looking for so many ports e.g. GTA 5. 
The Wii was not aimed at core gamers like the other two consoles. It's like comparing Ferrari sales to Ford sales - different markets. 

But whatever. Dreamcast syndrome has kicked in where people are just warping the situation in order to paint a favourable one. Time will tell just how well it's doing but with fuck all dev support, I can't see it lasting long. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/18/wii-u-ipad-kindle_n_2155002.html

Read this. Nintendo screwed the pooch, bro. They went for the Ipad, touch screen crowd and they wanted the COD numbers Microsoft and Sony were raking in at the same time. The Wii U is the product of that need to meet those demands.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mazty said:

If the WIi U was not competiting directly with the 360 and PS3, then it wouldn't have so many ports and be looking for so many ports e.g. GTA 5. 
The Wii was not aimed at core gamers like the other two consoles. It's like comparing Ferrari sales to Ford sales - different markets. 

But whatever. Dreamcast syndrome has kicked in where people are just warping the situation in order to paint a favourable one. Time will tell just how well it's doing but with fuck all dev support, I can't see it lasting long. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/18/wii-u-ipad-kindle_n_2155002.html

Read this. Nintendo screwed the pooch, bro. They went for the Ipad, touch screen crowd and they wanted the COD numbers Microsoft and Sony were raking in at the same time. The Wii U is the product of that need to meet those demands.

Yeah I think the Wii U is suffering an identity crisis which really isn't helping the consumer, who also may think it's just a new pad rather then entirely new console...



Mazty said:
DanneSandin said:

Oh, you're one of thoooose! Not thinking Wii U is part of the 8th gen =) now it all makes sense!

Wii was competing with PS360 - and did it very well. In fact, it was so good at competing that it won the gen. Wii U is part of the 8th gen of home consoles braw! And as far as I can see it's completely dominating! 100% market share. That's pretty good. But you're right, it could have had 110% or 200% market share!!

If the WIi U was not competiting directly with the 360 and PS3, then it wouldn't have so many ports and be looking for so many ports e.g. GTA 5. 
The Wii was not aimed at core gamers like the other two consoles. It's like comparing Ferrari sales to Ford sales - different markets. 

But whatever. Dreamcast syndrome has kicked in where people are just warping the situation in order to paint a favourable one. Time will tell just how well it's doing but with fuck all dev support, I can't see it lasting long. 

Well, it's obvious tha you don't know/understand that GAMES sell SYSTEMS. It's quite basic and simple really: (good) games sell more consoles, becuase that's what people use their consoles for - playing games. So if there is no games on a new system people won't buy it, because they wanna play them games. THAT'S why it's getting ports; to build a library of games that will entice people to buy the system for. How can you not see this? AND this is common practice in every new gen.



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Paul said:
I think vgchartz should have a most logical poster award. I nomonate Matzy for his excellent display of logic and debating skill.

+1



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Aielyn said:
Mazty said:
No, no & no. You completely fail to understand the Wii U's place in the market. Unlike other consoles at launch, the wii u is DIRECTLY competing against the PS3 and 360. All that can be gathered right now is that the Wii U, a new console, is being outsold BY THE COMPETITION. How the fuck you translate that into "the wii u is doing well" is completely beyond me, more so if you consider the poor performance in Europe.

Not doing well =/= failure. Nice strawman bro.

No, the Wii U is not "directly competing against the PS3 and 360", any more than the Wii was competing directly against the PS2. The Wii U is a different console. It's also supply constrained, even if it isn't selling out everywhere. It isn't POSSIBLE for the Wii U to sell as many units as the Xbox 360 in the last week, because there hasn't been that many units available on shelves.

The Wii U has just launched. It always takes time for a video game console to find its legs. Even the Wii. Every single console has had a relatively weak first holiday, compared with the following holiday. And the Wii U isn't far behind the Wii, and well beyond the PS3, which was competing with the older and cheaper, yet similarly capable 360, as you'll recall. So, despite being up against two consoles of similar power, it's performing better than either one did at launch.

The Wii U is similar in power. It is not similar in functionality. It is a different console. Each console should be taken on its own merits, and not compared with other consoles, to determine its value. And 99.9% of all people do exactly that.

You seem quite fond of accusing others of ad hominem, so I'm going to throw another classic term at you - Confirmation Bias. You seek out data points and claims that support your pre-existing opinion, and ignore all others. When others point out what you've ignored, you just repeat your original claim as though it proves it wrong, when in fact, it's quite the opposite. The Wii U is performing quite well, in a downturned economy against three popular cheaper consoles and a very popular handheld system (and the Vita :P), with a constrainment on supply and relatively little marketing (compared with the Wii). With all of those downward forces, it is still selling not far below how the Wii sold 6 years ago. And that's quite a feat. But if you restrict your attention to "it's not selling as well as the 360 and PS3 this holiday season", then of course it's going to look worse.

And no, the fact that it has some ports from 360 and PS3 prove nothing. Every platform gets ports from the previous generation at and around launch. It's how the industry works. Meanwhile, the Wii U's most notable titles are its exclusives, not the ports. And it's those that are selling very well. Take particular note of ZombiU.

sadly he didn't bother to answer this post...



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