Well, his evidence is numbers posted on this site.

Some people have called the posted numbers into question.

Debate ensued, and I post a pic of a third world country with all of their PS2s:

Then everyone restated their points again.

Soon we shall all move on.

Shipped or sold? Even if Sony manages to sell 3 million of a 12 year old console, DS should still be able to sell more during that span, considering it is 4 years younger..

pfffhahahhaa. PS2 is ahead in real life, leave the Earth if you don't like it (Pun intended). People come to this site to get general information (among other things) and if there are people like you (and there are a MASSIVE amount of them) who think that the DS has outsold the PS2, then you will give out false information becaues you follow VGChartz figures (for some reason) for the PS2 as opposed the actual figures.

People need to learn to follow several sources as opposed to just one, it leads to less ignorance and will make less people look like ASStronaut.

PS2 is not selling in massive numbers anywhere in the world. Why do you think it is?

Congratulations to Nintendo and the DS.
DS, the best selling gaming machine of all time.

...What? OK I didn't say it was selling massive amounts but for an eleven year old console to still sells over millions is quite a feat and is enough to keep its reign as highest selling gaming console of all time. It's just simple facts, all you need to do is come back down to Earth (Pun intended) and accept them.

No evidence = No facts

OK! so since Nintendo 'won' do you want me to bring the popcorn to this party?

Ok ok, seems we're talking in circles here.. It seems people here are either stating the DS has already outsold PS2, or that it never will. Funny, because I think both of those statements are wrong.. Now from what I gather, where we stand is:

- PS2 has in fact, NOT sold 153 million and has sold more since, as those numbers reflect Sony's reports from a year ago.

-However, I think it's also pretty clear that DS WILL eventually surpass PS2's numbers, as it has still sold 8 million units last year and nearly another 3 million this year so far. Sony has in comparison reportedly sold 4 million PS2s in fiscal year 2011, half of the DS's numbers.

- That is all we KNOW. The rest is mere speculation as Sony hasn't given us a more up-to-date report after last year, and this site has ceased its tracking of the numbers. So where we stand is anyone's guess.

-However, I highly highly, highly doubt that Sony has managed to sell multiple millions of its 12 year old PS2, especially when you consider that last year, they only sold 4 million. Sure it may be open to several more markets, but honestly how many units can these very minor markets push? Let alone of a console that is so aged as the PS2? To think the PS2 has sold much more than an additional 2 million tops after Sony's last report of 153 million from a year ago is nothing short of wishful thinking.

- This would put the PS2 roughly at 155-156 million, and DS at roughly 153-154 million, giving the DS around 2 million of ground to gain. I think that's entirely possible, considering it is poised to sell over 3 million this year alone.

- So in conclusion, I think we can logically state that while DS has not YET passed the PS2, it is still gaining ground and almost certainly will reach it at some point.

No Evidence = No Facts

I'm just kidding but yeah the DS is falling way too much and the 3DS will only cut into the DS's sales more next year.

Also, Im not sure if I remember correctly but I'm sure one of the PS2's quarters this year outsold the one prior to this year in the same quarter and for a bit of the year actually had YoY gains. If my memory serves me well then this adds to the premise of the DS falling too much as opposed to the PS2 falling more gradually. But I have no evidence or sources so don't take my word for it.