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ironmanDX on 12 December 2012
EdHieron said:

 

Sales of Halo games on Xbox 360:

Halo 3 Year Released:  2007   Games Sold:  11.67 Million

Halo:  Reach Year Released: 2010 Games Sold:  9.97 Million

Halo 4 Year Released:  2012  Games Sold:  5.52 Million

 

Sales of Gears games on 360:

Gears of War -- Year Released:  2006 -- Games Sold:   5.98M

Gears of War 2 -- Year Released:  2008 -- Games Sold:  6.56 Million

Gears of War 3 -- Year Released:  2011 -- Games Sold:  5.67M

 

In comparison to sales of the Halo games, the Gears games pale in comparison as a matter of fact none of the Gears games have even hit a respectable 8 Million Units sold.

 

As far as the sales of games in the "Uncharted" series go:

Uncharted -- Year Released 2007 -- Games Sold 4.44 Million

Uncharted 2 -- Year Released 2009 -- Games Sold:  5.97 Million

Uncharted 3 -- Year Released 2011 -- Games Sold 5.25 Milllion

 

Taking into account the difference in consoles sold this gen between Sony and Microsoft, the number of Uncharted games sold can certainly be said to be neck and neck with the number of Gears games sold.  And since the PS3 will pass the 360 in total sales at some point during the next two years, it's quite possible that the sales of games in the Uncharted series will surpass the number of games sold in the Gears series.

1st bolded point:

18 millionish copies and Gears isn't respectable? Who are you kidding? You'd have to be a fool to say that. How isn't that respectable? The Uncharted series hasn't done so either and will not do so. Your own point against the gears series is moot by your own point about the Uncharted series. Which according to you, should be unrespectable. Wait? You never said such a thing about Gears yet a series that has sold less is respectable? How is that even remotely logical?!?

2nd point:

Uncharted sales could be said to be neck an neck with Gears sales and Gears is doing poorly? The ps3 is said to be neck and neck with the 360 is it not? What is 2 million out of 70 million? Hint? You have no idea what you're on about.



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sales2099 on 12 December 2012
ethomaz said:
sales2099 said:
"However, its also true that "Gran Turismo" is one of the bestselling game series of all time and "Forza" may have its fanboys, but no "Forza" racer has come anywhere near equalling the sales of the latest "Gran Turismo" game for PS3."

One on one comparisons dont show the full picture. "IP" sales per gen REALLY shows whats what.

GT5 - 8.32
GT5:P - 4.11

Forza2 - 3.99
Forza3 - 5.22
Forza4 - 3.08
Forza Horizon - 0.74

13.03 > 12.43. And Forza 4 bundles will continue to outpace GT5 for another 4 weeks. Horizon still selling decent on its own. Gap will be even wider by January.

This is MS's THIRD best IP compared to Sonys #1. Think about that. Myth busted again.

Facepalm pic

No ethomaz. Nothing wrong with using IP sales. If one IP has a slow dev cycle then that is their problem. Forza as a franchise has outsold GT this gen. Again, take it up with PD if you think its unfair.



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ethomaz on 12 December 2012

sales2099 said:

No ethomaz. Nothing wrong with using IP sales. If one IP has a slow dev cycle then that is their problem. Forza as a franchise has outsold GT this gen. Again, take it up with PD if you think its unfair.

It's not just unfair... you can't compare the things that form.



sales2099 on 12 December 2012
pezus said:
fighter said:

Exclusives not only sell more on the 360, but on all segments, increasingly so, and especially on the emerging ones :

Retail X360 vs retail PS3 : Xbox wins (and at a higher price point per exclusive sold )

XBLA vs PSN : Xbox crushingly wins (and this is where Sony truly lags)

Kinect vs Move : Xbox crushingly wins (to be more precise - won - as Move cannot even be considered a competitor)


And this is why gentlemen the common perception that Xbox exclusives sell more than their PS counterpart is... so true

 

Bold: Blatantly wrong. Do you know what games cost in Europe?

Underlined: You base this on what?

Underlined: Reality?

Cmon Pezus, we all know PS3 owns retail and 360 owns digital. Dont even bother.



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sales2099 on 12 December 2012
ethomaz said:

sales2099 said:

No ethomaz. Nothing wrong with using IP sales. If one IP has a slow dev cycle then that is their problem. Forza as a franchise has outsold GT this gen. Again, take it up with PD if you think its unfair.

 

It's not just unfair... you can't compare the things that form.

I am comparing GT sales this gen vs Forza sales this gen. Very simple.



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Jaywood2010 on 12 December 2012
sales2099 said:
ethomaz said:

sales2099 said:

No ethomaz. Nothing wrong with using IP sales. If one IP has a slow dev cycle then that is their problem. Forza as a franchise has outsold GT this gen. Again, take it up with PD if you think its unfair.

 

It's not just unfair... you can't compare the things that form.

I am comparing GT sales this gen vs Forza sales this gen. Very simple.

People will view this differently.  Just like I said to the OP dont make your own logic just to prove your point.  Forza is a big IP but you cant be so blind to think it is bigger than GT. Just be happy that it is a quality competitor.  I think everybody gets your point but even then it really is an unfair point and you know that.  We dont know how well forza would sell if it was on the market as long as GT5 but that also doesnt matter because it is an "if".  




       

ethomaz on 12 December 2012

sales2099 said:

I am comparing GT sales this gen vs Forza sales this gen. Very simple.

I think that wrong... not because you showed Forzas outsold GTs (that's not true too because GT5 is way undertracked here) or because you forget GT PSP (I also do not care much about it).

But because that's not show the true user base about Forzas... around 3 million or less.

Or you want to compare the all FIFA's togeter or all COD's togetter too... 200 milllion COD this gen??? What that number means? Nothing... but the sales of one interaction is what really matters.

PS. Forza 4 will not outsell GT5 this year too even without adjustments... you said that in the last week thread but I checked the number and seem like GT5 will won even undertracked.



sales2099 on 12 December 2012
pezus said:
sales2099 said:
pezus said:
fighter said:

Exclusives not only sell more on the 360, but on all segments, increasingly so, and especially on the emerging ones :

Retail X360 vs retail PS3 : Xbox wins (and at a higher price point per exclusive sold )

XBLA vs PSN : Xbox crushingly wins (and this is where Sony truly lags)

Kinect vs Move : Xbox crushingly wins (to be more precise - won - as Move cannot even be considered a competitor)


And this is why gentlemen the common perception that Xbox exclusives sell more than their PS counterpart is... so true

 

Bold: Blatantly wrong. Do you know what games cost in Europe?

Underlined: You base this on what?

Underlined: Reality?

Cmon Pezus, we all know PS3 owns retail and 360 owns digital. Dont even bother.

And which reality is that? 

PS3 owns retail now? Nice of you to admit.

lol we all know PS3 has more retail offerings per year then 360. I can own up to that, but you still insist that XBLA gets more critically acclaimed games per year over PSN. Hell my 2012 360/PS3 thread shows this. Many of 360s list is comprised of XBLA games.



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Jaywood2010 on 12 December 2012
ethomaz said:

sales2099 said:

I am comparing GT sales this gen vs Forza sales this gen. Very simple.

I think that wrong... not because you showed Forzas outsold GTs (that's not true too because GT5 is way undertracked here) or because you forget GT PSP (I also do not care much about it).

But because that's not show the true user base about Forzas... around 3 million or less.

Or you want to compare the all FIFA's togeter or all COD's togetter too... 200 milllion COD this gen??? What that number means? Nothing... but the sales of one interaction is what really matters.

PS. Forza 4 will not outsell GT5 this year too even without adjustments... you said that in the last week thread but I checked the number and seem like GT5 will won even undertracked.


You're right on most of what you said but why do you think GT5 is undertracked?  If I'm correct polyphony and sony announced shipped numbers not sold.  Vgchartz tracks sold not shipped.




       

sales2099 on 12 December 2012
ethomaz said:

sales2099 said:

I am comparing GT sales this gen vs Forza sales this gen. Very simple.

I think that wrong... not because you showed Forzas outsold GTs (that's not true too because GT5 is way undertracked here) or because you forget GT PSP (I also do not care much about it).

But because that's not show the true user base about Forzas... around 3 million or less.

Or you want to compare the all FIFA's togeter or all COD's togetter too... 200 milllion COD this gen??? What that number means? Nothing... but the sales of one interaction is what really matters.

PS. Forza 4 will not outsell GT5 this year too even without adjustments... you said that in the last week thread but I checked the number and seem like GT5 will won even undertracked.

User base is one thing, but Im talking money generated. That 3 million Forza base has spent arguably more money then the GT userbase. Again the GT userbase never got much opportunity to spend their money outside GT5/GT:P, but thats when it becomes the developers fault for not giving them the opportunity. I totally believe in IP sales, AKA money generated to determine a IPs true relevance....how much a fanbase is willing to pay to keep the franchise alive.

P.S My very sig shows F4 right behind GT5. It has 4 more weeks to eclipse it. It will do it in one.

EDIT: That undertracked BS is getting old. VGchartz does sold, and the PD news is about shipped. Best case scenario for you the game is 500k undertracked. Tops. But your on this site and we must respect the numbers that are given, despite what we think.



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