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S.T.A.G.E. on 11 December 2012
kowenicki said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
kowenicki said:


The current xbox is probably the best hardware out there.

If by best you mean one of the far worse pieces of hardware in the history of hardware, then yeah.

I am sorry but the fail rate of over 50% is something that will forever stay with the 360.

It's not a car, it's not a blender. It's hardware at its most unreliable.

 

 

CURRENT.

and by hardware I was referring to games consoles, as you well know.

The current 360 is probably the best console hardware out there.


I beg to differ. The PS3 has better parts on paper but in practice the 360 is easier to develop for.



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DigitalDevilSummoner on 11 December 2012
sales2099 said:

2005-2007 called, it wants your opinion back.

Yet despite that it still managed to have more lifetime sales then the former #1 brand in gaming for the past 2 generations.....

People prefer faulty hardware to a functional PS3.....that in itself says something.

-Technically ,it's not  2005-2007, it's 2005-2008.

-It only managed that because of a year head start.

-The RRod is the most covered up issue in the history of gaming. If either Sony or Nintendo sported the "feature" they would be history.

 

The 360 is the one of the worse pieces of hardware ever made and it is only natural that reputation will stay with the brand even at this early in next gen console development.



Pavolink on 11 December 2012

So excited to see new consoles and new games. Next E3 will be so good.



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sales2099 on 11 December 2012
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
sales2099 said:

2005-2007 called, it wants your opinion back.

Yet despite that it still managed to have more lifetime sales then the former #1 brand in gaming for the past 2 generations.....

People prefer faulty hardware to a functional PS3.....that in itself says something.

-Technically ,it's not  2005-2007, it's 2005-2008.

-It only managed that because of a year head start.

-The RRod is the most covered up issue in the history of gaming. If either Sony or Nintendo sported the "feature" they would be history.

 

The 360 is the one of the worse pieces of hardware ever made and it is only natural that reputation will stay with the brand even at this early in next gen console development.

My last line in my previous post stands.



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DanneSandin on 11 December 2012
sales2099 said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
kowenicki said:


The current xbox is probably the best hardware out there.

If by best you mean one of the far worse pieces of hardware in the history of hardware, then yeah.

I am sorry but the fail rate of over 50% is something that will forever stay with the 360.

It's not a car, it's not a blender. It's hardware at its most unreliable.

 

 

2005-2007 called, it wants your opinion back.

Yet despite that it still managed to have more lifetime sales then the former #1 brand in gaming for the past 2 generations.....

People prefer faulty hardware to a functional PS3.....that in itself says something.

Oh, but they only managed to stay a head of Sony BECAUSE of RROD; it forced people to buy new hardware and thus staying a head of PS3 ^^



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S.T.A.G.E. on 11 December 2012
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
kowenicki said:


The current xbox is probably the best hardware out there.

If by best you mean one of the far worse pieces of hardware in the history of hardware, then yeah.

I am sorry but the fail rate of over 50% is something that will forever stay with the 360.

It's not a car, it's not a blender. It's hardware at its most unreliable.

 

 

CURRENT.

and by hardware I was referring to games consoles, as you well know.

The current 360 is probably the best console hardware out there.


I beg to differ. The PS3 has better parts on paper but in practice the 360 is easier to develop for.


I'm talking about the user experience and build quality.  The current 360 is better made than the PS3.


The 360 is a better balanced piece of hardware which is why all the functionalities work in harmony on it. The PS3 again, on paper is more powerful but not all the features work in harmony when it comes to development. 



DigitalDevilSummoner on 11 December 2012
sales2099 said:

My last line in my previous post stands.


No, because of my third point:

In the first couple to three years the RROD was a seriously under exposed issue (only because it was a MS product and not a Sony or Nintendo one.)

The 360 sold more (past tense). The PS3 sells more (present tense).

 

kowenicki said:

CURRENT.

and by hardware I was referring to games consoles, as you well know.

The current 360 is probably the best console hardware out there.

 By  "CURRENT" do you realise are you admitting comparing the 2006 PS3 to the 2008 xbox 360 ?

 

 

S.T.A.G.E. said:


The 360 is a better balanced piece of hardware which is why all the functionalities work in harmony on it.


No, the 360 is PC gaming for the non tech savvy.

And that should be our concern discussion the next gen of consoles.

 

 



sales2099 on 11 December 2012
DanneSandin said:
sales2099 said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
kowenicki said:


The current xbox is probably the best hardware out there.

If by best you mean one of the far worse pieces of hardware in the history of hardware, then yeah.

I am sorry but the fail rate of over 50% is something that will forever stay with the 360.

It's not a car, it's not a blender. It's hardware at its most unreliable.

 

 

2005-2007 called, it wants your opinion back.

Yet despite that it still managed to have more lifetime sales then the former #1 brand in gaming for the past 2 generations.....

People prefer faulty hardware to a functional PS3.....that in itself says something.

Oh, but they only managed to stay a head of Sony BECAUSE of RROD; it forced people to buy new hardware and thus staying a head of PS3 ^^

So 360 was so awesome that people were willing to buy another one? Thanks for your input.



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MoHasanie on 11 December 2012

I hope both are delayed. Seeing new consoles in one year seems too quick.



    

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sales2099 on 11 December 2012
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
sales2099 said:

My last line in my previous post stands.


No, because of my third point:

 In the first couple to three years the RROD was a seriously under exposed issue (only because it was a MS product and not a Sony or Nintendo one.)

The 360 sold more (past tense). The PS3 sells more (present tense).

 

 

kowenicki said:

CURRENT.

and by hardware I was referring to games consoles, as you well know.

The current 360 is probably the best console hardware out there.

 By  "CURRENT" do you realise are you admitting comparing the 2006 PS3 to the 2008 xbox 360 ?

S.T.A.G.E. said:


The 360 is a better balanced piece of hardware which is why all the functionalities work in harmony on it.


No, the 360 is PC gaming for the non tech savvy.

And that should be our concern discussion the next gen of consoles.

 

 

RROD was exposed in mid 2007. Thats a year and a half. Sales still continued. People preferred it over PS3.

And by "current" I think he means 2012 current. Like modern current.



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