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Forums - Gaming - Xbox 720 & PS4 codenames revealed, Microsoft’s ‘Oban’ chip still delayed – rumour

This thread is like an opening skirmish in the great Fanboy Wars of the PS4/720 theater. I kind of envy the Nintendo soldiers, as they will already have their positions secured and will likely miss a lot of the initial battling for position.



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DigitalDevilSummoner said:

The 360 is the one of the worse pieces of hardware ever made and it is only natural that reputation will stay with the brand even at this early in next gen console development.

?

I will stilll buy the next xbox day 1......

Is pretty easy, there is nothing interesing to me in PS3.

I don't like Metal Gear, I don't like Gran Turismo, I don't like Killzone, I don't like Untarched, I don't like God of War, I don't like inFamous, I don't like Resistance.

(Note: "like" is the key word. I'm not saying that those are bad games in any way[they are good games], just that they aren't my thing)

I also dislike the PSN, the layout of the playstation controller...

To put it simple, even if you gifted me a PS3, there are only 2 outcomes: I would sold it to buy games for my 360, or I would use it as a bluray player...

And, no, isn't logical... I have a friend who liked all the games above, but disliked games as Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, etc. And he had a 360! (He always complained of course, and no-one was ever able to understand why he bought the 360... price perhaps?)



Normando said:
sales2099 said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
kowenicki said:


The current xbox is probably the best hardware out there.

If by best you mean one of the far worse pieces of hardware in the history of hardware, then yeah.

I am sorry but the fail rate of over 50% is something that will forever stay with the 360.

It's not a car, it's not a blender. It's hardware at its most unreliable.

 

 

2005-2007 called, it wants your opinion back.

Yet despite that it still managed to have more lifetime sales then the former #1 brand in gaming for the past 2 generations.....

People prefer faulty hardware to a functional PS3.....that in itself says something.

Or maybe people having to buy more than one 360 inflated sales? I've never met someone who bought a pre-slim 360 and didn't have to replace it. I know people on their 3rd, 4th and even in one case 6th 360 because they broke. It gets to a point where you have a collection of 20 or so games for the 360 so making a switch doesn't make sense. 


I have 3, 2 have never had any issue (both HDMI models) and a 2006 that RROD in 2009 and was fixed under warranty and has been fine ever since.  If you've had more than 3 failures you need to start looking at environmental contributing factors (hot/cold temperatures, lack of circulation, misuse).  Of course a lot of these horror stories are people buying second hand too thinking the console was unreliable so try and get it cheaper which puts them at a higher risk of failure also.  If you've had 5 360's fail then you're misusing them imo.



RaiderMX said:

DigitalDevilSummoner said:

 The 360 is the one of the worse pieces of hardware ever made and it is only natural that reputation will stay with the brand even at this early in next gen console development.

?

I will stilll buy the next xbox day 1......

Is pretty easy, there is nothing interesing to me in PS3.

I don't like Metal Gear, I don't like Gran Turismo, I don't like Killzone, I don't like Untarched, I don't like God of War, I don't like inFamous, I don't like Resistance.

(Note: "like" is the key word. I'm not saying that those are bad games in any way[they are good games], just that they aren't my thing)

I also dislike the PSN, the layout of the playstation controller...

To put it simple, even if you gifted me a PS3, there are only 2 outcomes: I would sold it to buy games for my 360, or I would use it as a bluray player...

And, no, isn't logical... I have a friend who liked all the games above, but disliked games as Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable, etc. And he had a 360! (He always complained of course, and no-one was ever able to understand why he bought the 360... price perhaps?)

well damn!

well said :)

 

That's exactly how i feel about the Xbox but i actually "like" Gears Of War though..



If the new consoles come out on 2014, then the Wii U will have a year and a half sales advantage with 2 christmas. I dont think the others can catch up with that much of a head start.
Thus i have trouble believing this news...



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kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
sales2099 said:

RROD was exposed in mid 2007. Thats a year and a half. Sales still continued. People preferred it over PS3.

And by "current" I think he means 2012 current. Like modern current.

2008 was when the 360 got a drastic motherboard redesign that effectively ended huge fail rates. you know that.

and exposed means little. media and promotion is everything in the US market


Hardware is just about motherboards?

Once again... I'm talking about build quality, user experience.  The current PS3 is frankly pretty cheap, cheap plastics and some flimsy mechanisms. Not a criticism, just an observation.


PS3 has not had to have their chips replaced as many times as the 360 and the overheating of the old 360's was a massive problem. People had to suffocate their 360s with towels and risk their warranties to keep them on life support.

Being obtuse on purpose?

We are talking about the current iterations. 

The PS1 and PS2 were shit build quality, didnt stop them selling it?  Sony denied that too... until they lost a class action lawsuit and had to compensate every single user.

I never got compensated and I was a launch PS1 buyer... Mine overheated like most PS1 launch consoles... I had to pay 75 dollars out of pocket to get a new PS1 that didn't overheat (I was even flipping my launch PS1 upside to avoid overheating/freeze issues which eventually that didn't work).  The launch PS1/2 consoles were riddled with reliability issues.  After hearing that early PS2 consoles had DVD problems I was happy that I swore off buying from Sony since the PS1 era.  If I went through the RROD problems on 360 I would not be a Micrsoft consumer (even though I would never be).



sethnintendo said:
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
kowenicki said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:
sales2099 said:

RROD was exposed in mid 2007. Thats a year and a half. Sales still continued. People preferred it over PS3.

And by "current" I think he means 2012 current. Like modern current.

2008 was when the 360 got a drastic motherboard redesign that effectively ended huge fail rates. you know that.

and exposed means little. media and promotion is everything in the US market


Hardware is just about motherboards?

Once again... I'm talking about build quality, user experience.  The current PS3 is frankly pretty cheap, cheap plastics and some flimsy mechanisms. Not a criticism, just an observation.


PS3 has not had to have their chips replaced as many times as the 360 and the overheating of the old 360's was a massive problem. People had to suffocate their 360s with towels and risk their warranties to keep them on life support.

Being obtuse on purpose?

We are talking about the current iterations. 

The PS1 and PS2 were shit build quality, didnt stop them selling it?  Sony denied that too... until they lost a class action lawsuit and had to compensate every single user.

I never got compensated and I was a launch PS1 buyer... Mine overheated like most PS1 launch consoles... I had to pay 75 dollars out of pocket to get a new PS1 that didn't overheat (I was even flipping my launch PS1 upside to avoid overheating/freeze issues which eventually that didn't work).  The launch PS1/2 consoles were riddled with reliability issues.  After hearing that early PS2 consoles had DVD problems I was happy that I swore off buying from Sony since the PS1 era.  If I went through the RROD problems on 360 I would not be a Micrsoft consumer (even though I would never be).

bought all 3 Sony consoles on their first iterations, never had an issue.




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The only console maker with a perfect record for reliability is Nintendo.



Tease.

I'd say the later the release, the better the hardware. That way the machines can be perfected and have no defects, and I know that's something both companies want to do later on. I'm not biased towards any of them, but I would really appreciate it if Microsoft takes their time with the hardware to ensure that there are no faults in the system. Same with Sony (YLOD defect with PS3). I know that when and if the consoles are released earlier, it's good for sales. Still, it's better to take the time to make good hardware and not rush things. That would be a smart business move as well, at least I'm honest about that.



Squilliam said:
The only console maker with a perfect record for reliability is Nintendo.


Pfft

You remember the NES? those bastards were so garbage..

 

Now every other Nintendo console was good. Ive never had a Nintendo console that fucked up after that