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ethomaz on 09 December 2012

phenom08 said:

And yet its still outpacing them, wow their launches must have been something else lol.

Sorry but I didn't understand or your post is nonsense.



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phenom08 on 09 December 2012
pezus said:

Why wouldn't I bring up Europe? I brought it up because I wanted to compare it with Vita's launch. Looks like WiiU is heading for a lower launch than Vita everywhere but US and A

Does it matter if the US is enough to keep it ahead? And wow this is quite interesting, the WiiU will launch lower than Vita but sell more lifetime wow lol.



phenom08 on 09 December 2012
ethomaz said:

phenom08 said:

And yet its still outpacing them, wow their launches must have been something else lol.

Sorry but I didn't understand or your post is nonsense.

The WiiU had a much weaker launch in Europe than PS3 and is still outpacing it.



DanneSandin on 09 December 2012
VGKing said:
DanneSandin said:
If we take in to consideration that Wii U only were available for 2 days in Europe, and still outsold Xbox360 and is lagging behind the PS3 with 50k, I'd say that's pretty good numbers...! Will be interesting to see Europe's 2nd week and the launch of Japan...

But how come Wii U dropped to horrific in NA?

It's not really good.....it had months and months of pre-orders. Expect a huge drop next week just like in the US.
It dropped in the US because the demand just isn'st there. The Wii U is NOT a must-have console this holiday and the $300-$350 price is too high for a Nintendo console. Expect another 3DS-like situation here with the consumer confusion.

Still sold much better than both PS3 AND xbox360. Only combined PS360 sold SLIGHTLY better than Wii U in its first week. Granted I'm talking about the US launch regarding these numbers. And in its second week in the US it has actually GAINED an even larger leap over either of PS3 or xbox360, and only  by combining the numbers of PS360 are they outselling Wii U, and not even by a great deal then. Wii U have had a much better launch than either of PS3 and xbox360 - and that's a fact. It's only a disappointment by comparing it with the Wii, and then PS3 has to be an even greater failure when compared to PS2. Do YOU see the PS3 as a failure? I don't.

And I don't think Wii U will be anything at all like the 3DS, considering up to  this point the 3DS has actually outsold its predecessor, and I don't think the Wii U will do that...

So everything you say is wrong. That whole post is wrong.



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ethomaz on 09 December 2012

phenom08 said:

The WiiU had a much weaker launch in Europe than PS3 and is still outpacing it.

lol I got it now.

PS3 have a terrible US and Japan launch you can compare the "bad level" between PS3 (US/JP) and Wii U (EU)... the PSV looks like a best seller lol.

PS. I'm a little drunk... lol again?



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VGKing on 09 December 2012
phenom08 said:
pezus said:
 

Why wouldn't I bring up Europe? I brought it up because I wanted to compare it with Vita's launch. Looks like WiiU is heading for a lower launch than Vita everywhere but US and A

Does it matter if the US is enough to keep it ahead? And wow this is quite interesting, the WiiU will launch lower than Vita but sell more lifetime wow lol.

IS it though? US is only enough to keep a console relevant is you DOMINATE THAT MARKET. I highly doubt Wii U will do that, but its way too early to tell.
For all we know the Wii U will flop even harder than the Vita. Or not. We just don't know.

All we DO know is that Wii U launched in the holidays, and sold less than the Vita which launched in February.(in Europe) You can't just ignore this...



DanneSandin on 09 December 2012
ryuzaki57 said:
DanneSandin said:
If we take in to consideration that Wii U only were available for 2 days in Europe, and still outsold Xbox360 and is lagging behind the PS3 with 50k, I'd say that's pretty good numbers...!

You sure?

Apparently I was wrong ^^ don't know where I got the numbers from now... How many days does that account for for PS3 and xbox360?

EDIT: This graphic is actually broken. That week is ending with December 10th, when Xbox360 actually went on sale on December 2nd, and it's first weeks numbers should have ended on the 3rd of December, so this graphic is actually showing TWO weeks worth of sales.



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VGKing on 09 December 2012
DanneSandin said:
VGKing said:
DanneSandin said:
If we take in to consideration that Wii U only were available for 2 days in Europe, and still outsold Xbox360 and is lagging behind the PS3 with 50k, I'd say that's pretty good numbers...! Will be interesting to see Europe's 2nd week and the launch of Japan...

But how come Wii U dropped to horrific in NA?

It's not really good.....it had months and months of pre-orders. Expect a huge drop next week just like in the US.
It dropped in the US because the demand just isn'st there. The Wii U is NOT a must-have console this holiday and the $300-$350 price is too high for a Nintendo console. Expect another 3DS-like situation here with the consumer confusion.

Still sold much better than both PS3 AND xbox360. Only combined PS360 sold SLIGHTLY better than Wii U in its first week. Granted I'm talking about the US launch regarding these numbers. And in its second week in the US it has actually GAINED an even larger leap over either of PS3 or xbox360, and only  by combining the numbers of PS360 are they outselling Wii U, and not even by a great deal then. Wii U have had a much better launch than either of PS3 and xbox360 - and that's a fact. It's only a disappointment by comparing it with the Wii, and then PS3 has to be an even greater failure when compared to PS2. Do YOU see the PS3 as a failure? I don't.

And I don't think Wii U will be anything at all like the 3DS, considering up to  this point the 3DS has actually outsold its predecessor, and I don't think the Wii U will do that...

So everything you say is wrong. That whole post is wrong.

Just my opinion.

Just look at Wii U's price point....is it really something to brag about that it outsold the launch of the $400 360 or $600 PS3 in America? 
Do I see the PS3 as a failure? Depends. If I compare it to the PS3 then yes it is a failure. 

Also, its worth keeping in mind that however "horrible" the 360 and PS3 launches were, they were "saved" by amazing 3rd party support and games like Call of Duty. We don't know how good 3rd party support will be on Wii U, but if we look at the history of Nintendo, it probably wont' be very good compared to the competition.



ethomaz on 09 December 2012

DanneSandin said:

Apparently I was wrong ^^ don't know where I got the numbers from now... How many days does that account for for PS3 and xbox360?

Everything related to games have Fridays releases in Europe with little exceptions... so two days like everything else.



phenom08 on 09 December 2012
VGKing said:
phenom08 said:
pezus said:
 

Why wouldn't I bring up Europe? I brought it up because I wanted to compare it with Vita's launch. Looks like WiiU is heading for a lower launch than Vita everywhere but US and A

Does it matter if the US is enough to keep it ahead? And wow this is quite interesting, the WiiU will launch lower than Vita but sell more lifetime wow lol.

IS it though? US is only enough to keep a console relevant is you DOMINATE THAT MARKET. I highly doubt Wii U will do that, but its way too early to tell.
For all we know the Wii U will flop even harder than the Vita. Or not. We just don't know.

All we DO know is that Wii U launched in the holidays, and sold less than the Vita which launched in February.(in Europe) You can't just ignore this...

We also know it sold better the Vita in the US. Whats your point?