I expect announcements and possible showing of new xbox and ps sometime in Q2 (E3 seems likely), this will certainly cause PS3 and 360 sales to decline even more rapidly. This generation is coming to an end and even though both machines could have another couple of decent years left in them, Sony and MS simply cannot afford to launch a full two years or more after Nintendo, they need to start the new cycle and start getting marketshare and developer support.

All in all, I think that the Wii U could possibly and marginally outsell the PS3 and 360, mostly due to a strong Q4 and a weak Q4 for the other two but its really hard to tell at this point (if it doesn't manage that, it will not bode well and the Wii U will have perhaps about 35-40% of the Wii's first calendar year hardware sales).

I think your estimations might turn out to be pretty damn near on the spot, kowenicki, as my 2013 predictions would also indicate. What's your take on the handheld situation this year, in Japan and Europe in particular?

Thanks to finally breaking the $199 price point and its equivalent around the world, as well as some great exclusives and large 3rd party titles next year, the PS3 should sell relatively on par with how the 360 sold in 2012. However, I see another large drop for the 360 next year, with a price cut doing little to nothing to help this. I would imagine ~7.5M-7.8M being its final number for the year.

This shows that some people's downplaying Sony's bundles are not based on facts. Some people on VGchartz say that People buy Sony bundles but don't want those games. If that was true then PS3's sale would be as low as it was during its launch and a year after.

I'd keep this thread around for just a little while yet; I wouldn't be surprised to see further adjustments in the downward direction very soon. Enough to make the PS3 drop below 11mil?

Decline really setting in now, generation rapidly heading for the death throes.

Years 7-9 might look like years 3-5 except reduced and reversed. Anyways last year 360 dropped around 4m while PS3 dropped around 3m. For this year I think 360 to drop around 2m-3m and PS3 1.5m-2.5m. Based on numbers before we get Financial numbers, might readjust when we get more numbers.

Well like I said. Give or take a Million and without next gen consoles... With pricecuts. Which isnt going to happen.

kowenicki 360 sold 9.8m for 2012! did we have another adjustment, or was that the only one? edit

+-16m for PS360 this year, which is roughly the same amount ps2 shipped at the start of this gen. Both consoles will ship another 50m combined before they're phased out.

PS3 will sell over 10 million this year yet... so not that big drop... and I think PS3 sold over 12 million in 2012 too the adjustments will make everybody happy... 360 sold over 10 million in 2012 too.