This just means:
Once every year, by the time Apple releases their latest edition of the iPhone, iPhone sales get a significant boost for a limited period of time.
This just means:
Once every year, by the time Apple releases their latest edition of the iPhone, iPhone sales get a significant boost for a limited period of time.
but can you really call it genuine market share considering that like 80% of iphone sales are to the people who already own a 6month old model and just upgrading lol.
I am yet to meet a new person who says I decided to get an iphone 5. All the people I know who have them are ones who upgraded from 4S.
Euphoria14 said:
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Shubhank said:
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Explain to me how it's ironic that I went with as device whose options benefit me after my purchase rather than going with a device that lacks in that same department? Remember, I did weigh my options. I'm no fool. I know what I was looking for and I made my choice after well over a month of research to find what suites ME best.
If I am going to end up with (1) device, why do I care about all the other choices? A wealth of options after I make my purchase is more important to me than saying "Hey, I got this Galaxy S3, but I had the choice of this or that!". You conviently keep forgetting I already had an Android phone and I still have an Android tablet. This is my first ever iDevice and to be honest, I think it's a fantastic piece of hardware and it cost the same amount as my Captivate when I bought it as well as my fiance's S3. I was shopping in that price bracket. I don't care that Android has $10 handsets. Those choices bring ME zero benefit as I am not the target customer for those options.
Remember, this whole discussion between us was between Galaxy S3 and iPhone 4S. The fact you keep changing the discussion to other things shows you lost the battle to prove how my phone is "LOL" level inferior.
I do see the point, but our conversation was about Galaxy S3 and iPhone 4S. This "choice" debate does not benefit me. I knew what price range I was looking for. I wanted a device that would be compatible with everything on the device's market place. That gave me the option of Galaxy S2, S3, HTC OneX, etc... higher end models. Stop bringing up the $0-$50 devices that I wouldn't even bat an eyelid for. That isn't the discussion we were having.
iPads still blow away sales for Android tablets, so I don't see your point.
Now your just being condescending to people who enjoy mobile gaming. That doesn't prove anything. It just makes you look angry that people prefer things other than what you do. It also doesn't help your point at all about developers going for the marketshare leaders now if it's "sad" anyways.
iOS isn't getting Bastion 2 weeks ago, TWEWY a month+ ago and multiple other new game releases because Android has been around for 5 years. That's a poor excuse in 2012, especially with it's super marketshare. It's because developers make more money on iOS than they do on Android. This is proven.
1.) So you are once again agreeing with me that it's smarter for devs to go for iPhone? Which is it? Is it my point about consistent hardware layouts or yours about marketshare? I'm confused now.
2.) That has nothing to do with the conversation at all. Now you're just trying to find new ways to argue when you clearly lost the argument we started off with. Plus, if you really want to go down this road, stop ignoring that people can get a $200 iPhone5, $99 iPhone 4S, $50 iPhone 4 or free iPhone 3GS. How you like them pricing options?
I'll bring it up again so you can try once more to discuss the topic we agreed on. That or you can just admit you can't actually prove anything rather than being yet another person who just hates iPhones and those who enjoy them. Makes me wonder why people claim iUsers to be so terrible... I haven't insulted the Android devices or their users once.
What makes my fiance's Samsung Galaxy S3 better than my "LOL" iPhone 4S?
iPhone = Great gaming device. Don't agree? Who cares, because you're wrong.
Currently playing:
Final Fantasy VI (iOS), Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (iOS) & Dragon Quest V (iOS)
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You kinda of admitted S3 as a superior device not as much superior but i didnt want to push it to that point..i could accomodate.
Anyway you wanted me to fill it as a much superior device
Euphoria14 said:
I will not go into a lot more to a phone( color options. price ..etc.) but still on specs. it does blow away your 4s6) Much Better Battery ( 4G vs 3G device). You're not serious here are you? Android devices are notoriously known for their poor battery performance. My fiance charges that thing every day. I charge mine on average once every 2-3 days unless I play games on it. Over time almost every Android device experiences battery performance degredation due to so much crap running in the background. I can let this one go based on your opinion.i dont own either 4s or S3 to give any real comparison.I did found this link though
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Shubhank said:
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You actually didn't. They were subjective, not objective.
Specs don't tell an entire story. How does S3 specs enable it to function better or faster than the iPhone 4S? Point is, it doesn't. iOS still runs silky smooth and games and apps run quickly and it makes phone calls without issue. Even with lower RAM and what not. Why is that? Because the OS is optimized for that one hardware layout, where Android has to be custom tailored to suite each individual layout. This is where the issues arise and where higher specs can help make up for the custom OS that isn't properly optimized. This is my argument for why it has greater developer support too. They know what hardware they are working on and it requires less QA testing as well. Less cost, greater profits.
Watch this video to see the two compared in various speed tests. To make sure nothing was bias they even went ahead and cleared history, cache, all running apps, etc... before each test. It shows how optimization brings greater benefits than just upping the specs.
Screen size being better than the other is subjective as it comes down entirely to user preference.
Okay, you can get 128GB of storage. That's fantastic. So you win on expandable memory.
All your points are mearly subjective or just thumping your chest about specs while having no way at all to actually show those superior specs making any real noticable difference in function. It's a talking point and nothing more.
When it comes to practical everyday functions for your device, whether it be the S3 or the 4S, those specs bring nothing to the table. Unless of course you can prove me wrong.
I'll give you one thing though, which I am shocked you failed to mention.
Galaxy S3 has a better camera from my experience. Zooming in with the iPhone makes the pictures looks terrible and blurry. I don't zoom much however so the pictures I frequently take while spending time with my daughter still look great.
iPhone = Great gaming device. Don't agree? Who cares, because you're wrong.
Currently playing:
Final Fantasy VI (iOS), Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (iOS) & Dragon Quest V (iOS)
Euphoria14 said:
Specs don't tell an entire story. How does S3 specs enable it to function better or faster than the iPhone 4S? Point is, it doesn't. iOS still runs silky smooth and games and apps run quickly and it makes phone calls without issue. Even with lower RAM and what not. Why is that? Because the OS is optimized for that one hardware layout, where Android has to be custom tailored to suite each individual layout. This is where the issues arise and where higher specs can help make up for the custom OS that isn't properly optimized. This is my argument for why it has greater developer support too. They know what hardware they are working on and it requires less QA testing as well. Less cost, greater profits. Watch this video to see the two compared in various speed tests. To make sure nothing was bias they even went ahead and cleared history, cache, all running apps, etc... before each test. It shows how optimization brings greater benefits than just upping the specs.
All your points are mearly subjective or just thumping your chest about specs while having no way at all to actually show those superior specs making any real noticable difference in function. It's a talking point and nothing more. When it comes to practical everyday functions for your device, whether it be the S3 or the 4S, those specs bring nothing to the table. Unless of course you can prove me wrong.
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As for Specs opening Apps clearly shows how much it is OS dependent than on specs. so i can say Jelly Bean will blow 4s.
Specs power would have been shown when Gaming, video and multitasking would have been shown.
To be practical All persons can complete a 10 m race within 2 sec. A person stamina is only tested when you have him race 400 - 800 meters
Shubhank said:
Test wasn't for Android 4.1 Jelly Bean .. I would like to see that.As for Specs opening Apps clearly shows how much it is OS dependent than on specs. so i can say Jelly Bean will blow 4s. Specs power would have been shown when Gaming, video and multitasking would have been shown. To be practical All persons can complete a 10 m race within 2 sec. A person stamina is only tested when you have him race 400 - 800 meters |
Come on now bro, you really have an excuse for everything. 4.1 isn't going to magically turn it into superphone with lightning speed. It won't magically make it boot up faster to match the iPhone, make games load faster to match the iPhone, make the web browser speed up to match the iPhone or make the actual number pad for making phone calls speed up to match the iPhone.
If it does though, that's great since those super specs will now finally allow it to run as fast as the 4S. :-p
Test wasn't for iOS 6 either and either way you are still comparing a 2011 device to a 2012 device with much beefier specs, which does the Galaxy S3 no favors in this current debate. You also still forget I actually own both of these devices. I have tested the same games, same apps, etc... I know how each operates and how they compare in real world situations.
You also just admitted my point that specs are little more than a talking point. It's always been obvious that OS is more important than specs. That's how it always should be. Upping the specs to cover inability to get your custom OS up to snuff is the easy way out.
You also don't want a stamina test because Android have shown time and time to develop issues over time, especially if used extensively for tasks like gaming and even more so if you go the modding route.
iPhone = Great gaming device. Don't agree? Who cares, because you're wrong.
Currently playing:
Final Fantasy VI (iOS), Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (iOS) & Dragon Quest V (iOS)
Honestly, I don't think Apple is the company they once were and I'm fairly certain that they've peaked ...
With the iPod, Apple was about 3 years ahead of their competition and by the time their competition caught up Apple was already 2 steps ahead of them; and they were never able to match the devices' capabilities or popularity. With the iPhone, Apple was 2 years ahead of their competition and (while they continued to improve their system) their rate of improvement has not been as rapid as their competition and Android has slowly climbed to be a comparible system. With the iPad, Apple was a year ahead of their competition and they are already being out-innovated by their competition.
36 months from now, I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple playing catch-up with their competition ...
Euphoria14 said:
Come on now bro, you really have an excuse for everything. 4.1 isn't going to magically turn it into superphone with lightning speed. It won't magically make it boot up faster to match the iPhone, make games load faster to match the iPhone, make the web browser speed up to match the iPhone or make the actual number pad for making phone calls speed up to match the iPhone. If it does though, that's great since those super specs will now finally allow it to run as fast as the 4S. :-p
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Well to be fair. iOS 6 only adds features to the iPhone 4s while 4.1 adds smoother transitions in Android and removes the lag you complain.
You on one side applaud iOS for its optimization and on the other hand while i vouch for optimization you find it excuse. You need to be fair.
And also you dont know clearly about 4.1 . It definitely/magically turn S3 to be faster than 4s in opening and closing apps .
In the videi Browser wars was win by S3 and the test was only closing and opening apps. You really meant only this when you said there is more to the phone then spec?
I believe a mac mini will open the Vgchart site the same speed as a 27 inch iMac. Does this not mean iMac blows mini ? I think you just acted cleverly and didnt posted a video which didnt pushed 4s as a typical smartphone one will use.