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Andrespetmonkey said:
Jay520 said:
For next generation, I'd say the PS4 has the potential for more games than the Nextbox.

We know for sure that the Nextbox will have Halo, Gears, Fable, & Forza. There's other games like Crackdown & Alan Dark, but those franchises haven't been active in years and nothing suggests that they will be picked up. We can only say for certain that Microsoft will have those four games.

Oh man, I love me some Alan Dark ;)

Alan Dark,  sounds like a cheesy B movie hero name. Yes your right many of those franchises are dormant.



I think after struggling so hard with PS3 and Vita, Sony will want to come out swinging from jump. I am betting on
-Uncharted 4: I know Naughty Dog has never continued a series beyond next generation but times have changed. I believe Sony sees the benefit of having a long pedigreed series and Uncharted is perfect for it. As long as it remains top quality it will be fine. U4 will assuredly be a release window title. This is only validated further with ND working with 2 teams. Uncharted sells 4-6million
-Gurilla Games Shooter: I don't think it is Killzone. I think Sony is testing to see if Killzone is still viable as an IP, K3 didn't do as well as expected just like Resistance. I am not sure what the gimmick will be for this new shooter but GG excels at making a console showcase game. This is what Sony will want to take advantage of. Hopefully they hire someone like Amy Hennig to take control of Story/Script writing, GG's current one is aweful(strange because KZ1 was good). Possible to actually be KZ4, but it will be a release window title for sure due to shooter popularity in the US.
-Grand Turismo: Sony has to be quite dissappointed with Japan Studios these days. They have been the cause of much bad press for the company. Luckily, what they fail at in timely execution is remedied by quality of product. Sony will want to make GT the "it" racer early in the console life cycle. They have always waited before to let the userbase get bigger but they have a lot to prove this time around.

Sony's plan is always to cover largest markets from jump (except RPGS...although they should with the highest concentration of RPG fans being PS fans as well >:[ ).



      

      

      

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Yes make a list I need a lauch. Outside Gears halo and forza most ms exclusives failed to make a mark .


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VGKing said:
Farsala said:
JustThatGamer said:

Farsala said:

 Yes, the Fable and forza is bigger then God of war though. Though Forza and Fable are on decline, too soon to tell with God of war. So that is why I say they are almost equal.

 

You're massively wrong. God of War is much bigger than Forza and Fable and it's never had to be massively bundled. Fable is a 2.5 - 4.0 million selling franchise and Forza is a 1.5 - 3.0 million selling franchise, Forza 2, 3 and Fable 2, 3 only sold so well due to mass bundling and God of War III is still way ahead of them at 5.2 million which Sony announced on the 30th May 2012, it's sold a lot more since then and is now roughly at 5.4m+.

The God of War games are 4.25 - 6.00 million sellers. God of War III will pass 6 million this gen easily as it's already at about 5.4-5.5m and there's a new budget essentials edition and the new Saga collection which has been selling VERY well. Not to mention God of War III was hardly bundled at all, released during a PS3 shortage and had a terrible marketing campaign and it still went on to be one of the biggest exclusives on HD consoles and the best selling game in its genre of all time. God of War: Ascension will also be a 5.5 - 6.5 million seller and will definitely pass 6 million unless the PS4 launches before Q4 2014 which would cut its legs short a little bit.

With the way the God of War franchise growing and the fact millions of people are already anxiously waiting for God of War IV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOwCvW_4x_k 6.4 million views or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUY1MeMaFVU with 4 million views and there's more fake videos with millions of views) even though God of War: Ascension has been announced as the next game in the series, GoW4 is going to be the biggest in the series yet selling 6.5 - 7.5 million and will be a HUGE system seller. 

And God of War is bigger than Uncharted as well; UC2 was bundled a lot, has had an extra xmas holiday and is 6 months older and yet GoW3 is only about 300-400K behind and is catching up. UC3 is the most bundled game on HD consoles this generation and once the game stops being bundled sales will slow down considerably and it is unlikely to pass UC2 by a significant margin if at all. Uncharted is really only a medium-high tier 3.5 - 4.5 million selling franchise if it wasn't bundled so massively, I don't know why some people think it's a big franchise when it's really not at all. Are Resistance: FoM, MotorStorm and LittleBigPlanet huge sellers? No, they sold 4-5 million because of mass bundling just like Uncharted 2 & 3 sold a lot mainly because of bundles, yet I rarely see people criticise Uncharted's sales for depending heavily on bundles like they do other games.

Gran Tursimo and God of War are Sony's most popular and beloved franchises, both are huge system sellers. Uncharted and LittleBigPlanet are big sellers and will help shift a lot of consoles. Resistance, Killzone and Infamous are decent/good sellers but are unlikely to help boost console sales much. Some new IPs could help the PS4 but it'll most likely be sequels to existing franchises that will help push PS4 sales most around the first year on sale, if the new IPs are successful and get sequels then they could be big system sellers for the PS4. 

You are missing the point because I fail to be concise. Forza AND Fable> GoW. Forza 360 avg 3.7m+ Fable 360 avg 4.4m = 8.1m > any God of war.

Why are you pitting 2 Xbox 360 franchises against 1 PS3 one? WTF?

The guy you are replying to was comparing God of War to Forza OR Fable, individually.

Because he misunderstood what I said, and so are you. I was comparing both combined with GoW originally. His reply to my post was pointless as I already know that... And now your post is pointless.



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CGI-Quality said:
KeptoKnight said:
CGI-Quality said:
KeptoKnight said:

Gran turismo is like FiFa. It doesn't seem like it will sell but it does. For some reason I still feel like its not that big of a title. Its just receiving some lucky charms.lol

Then it received those "lucky charms" quite a bit, since it's been selling 9.3-14.89 million since it first launched in the 90s. The truth is Gran Turismo is a very large franchise, it just seems like many on this site don't realize that.

I feel like betting that the sequel (GT 6) will sell less than 8.1 million =X

I wouldn't bet on that. ;)


GT5 Prologue was a beta release and sold more than 4M copies. It just sells, no matter what. There is a great number of racing fans and GT is very popular. And this people don't have any problem in expend money (looking at the price of racing wheels).



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FatalInertia said:

 

HUH? Outside gears ms barely has any lol.  I am not playing a game the entire discussion was on first party exclusives.  Ms had an extra year on the market......................................duh.  take that year away and its a different story.on top of this most of those sales are multiplats.

 

Mas literally has juyst a couple franchises that sell well, sony has way more in abundance then MS only a fool argues otherwise. MGS 4 over 5 mill, uncharted, gran turismo, God of war, little big planet. Heavy rain is at near 3 mill, first resistance is over 4, killzone 3 is well over 3 million.

Yes because that extra time on the market - traditionally helps the sales?

I am so sick of this argument being used - it's pointless and also historically inaccurate.

Like Genesis/Megadrive vs SNES? - No

Like Saturn vs. PsX? - No

Like Dreamcast vs. Ps2? - No

Consoles sell what they sell. In most cases the later to market one can try to better the product already on market, as its strenghts and weaknesses are there to see, and  and over the medium term, clean up. I think after 6 years on the market, we can see that hasn't happened, so some will try to shift the goalposts. Maybe it will, but at this stage late in the game, it wouldn't be far from the equivalent of bragging the PsP outsold the DS last week.

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Uncharted, God of War, Gran Turismo, and no doubt Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale.



JimmyDanger said:
FatalInertia said:
 

 

HUH? Outside gears ms barely has any lol.  I am not playing a game the entire discussion was on first party exclusives.  Ms had an extra year on the market......................................duh.  take that year away and its a different story.on top of this most of those sales are multiplats.

 

Mas literally has juyst a couple franchises that sell well, sony has way more in abundance then MS only a fool argues otherwise. MGS 4 over 5 mill, uncharted, gran turismo, God of war, little big planet. Heavy rain is at near 3 mill, first resistance is over 4, killzone 3 is well over 3 million.

Yes because that extra time on the market - traditionally helps the sales?

I am so sick of this argument being used - it's pointless and also historically inaccurate.

Like Genesis/Megadrive vs SNES? - No

Like Saturn vs. PsX? - No

Like Dreamcast vs. Ps2? - No

Consoles sell what they sell. In most cases the later to market one can try to better the product already on market, as its strenghts and weaknesses are there to see, and  and over the medium term, clean up. I think after 6 years on the market, we can see that hasn't happened, so some will try to shift the goalposts. Maybe it will, but at this stage late in the game, it wouldn't be far from the equivalent of bragging the PsP outsold the DS last week.

Remember - if your auntie had a willy - she'd be your uncle.

The only reason this is brought up is because litterally, the amount 360 obtained in the year head start (6million) is the only distance it has ever had on PS3. PS3 has actually been creeping on that amount since it's release, with it now only about 1.5million. This is proof if the PS3 came out first or even the same time, we would be having a totally different discussion right now.  Simple Mathmatics.The Wii came out the same time as PS3 also, so yes it beat both by a huge margin. Yet at least with the PS2's lead on Xbox, the lead was irefutable with PS2 owning like 70%+ market share by themselves alone.

I would also like to add MS has plenty of games, it is just a lot of them are not for their typical Hardcore crowd so they get quickly overlooked.Most of these popped up recently.  MS only makes what they think can sell. If it doesn't do decent numbers you will never see a sequel. Sony gives games a lot of chances before they throw in the towel.



      

      

      

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